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ModeratorThe Denon’s are about 105mm (say slightly more than 4″), the ones on the MC4000 are different and do look slightly bigger – bit like the MTP ones – but don’t know for sure. The pitchfader on the MC4000 is a nice, longish 100mm/4″.
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ModeratorCould be something as simple as a bad ground track on a circuit board.
However … you did say that even with another mixer as soon as you plugged a CDJ in to USB the buzz returned. Actually you don’t say you hooked up the CDJ without USB on the other mixer.
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ModeratorWonderful thing, the search function at the Algoriddim Support page …
http://help.algoriddim.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2364125-how-to-add-your-own-audio-samples-
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ModeratorLOL @ invoice to Microsoft & welcome to the wonderful world of IT.
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ModeratorThe noise probably is the result of a combination of laptop, CDJ and the USB connection between them. I remember one gig at someone’s house where we also had a nice 50Hz ground buzz and the only way to get rid of it was to unplug the power supply from the laptop, which is double insulated and doesn’t even have a ground plug.
We made sure the laptop was fully charged when we started the night and we played a long mix somewhere in the middle from an iPhone to recharge the laptop (disconnected usb, charged, then removed power supply again, reattached usb).
Never had it again, so never bothered finding the actual cause. But it’s an easy test, just unplug your power cable from the laptop and see what that does.
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ModeratorAnd both your speakers and headphone are connected to your S2? You have all the settings inside Traktor set correctly?
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ModeratorDenon: As said, primarily aimed at mobile DJ’s. I have had the MC6000 mk1, the mk2 is as strong (built like the proverbial tank) but layed out slightly more clever to give DJs a bit of extra finger space. Jogs are very high quality but not the biggest.
The 4000 has a bit more modern look and feel, as well as not being as cramped as the 6000. The 3000 is discontinued for a while now, so I’d always opt for 4000. Denon jogs have no visual indicators (bar on the MCX8000), so they’d not be suitable for you.
Personally I don’t really care about visual indicators. Having played on stuff that never had it for the longest time, you learn to use other indicators (open channel fader, position crossfader, nowadays laptop scree, etx). Another “trick” if you like is to leave the cue button on for your next track. It serves as a simple reminder of what channel to start, especially when there is all sorts of stuff going on in the booth.
Agreed on the CDJs, even with RekordBox USB they are only slightly better than the CDJs without. And it would take Nexus2 players at 2k a piece to get the full info out of them in hi-res color screens. And still you’d be lacking hardwired features you’d have on a controller. BTW, don’t mistake RekordBox (for USB on CDJs) with RekordBox DJ, the latter being full-fledged DJ software that needs a laptop/computer to run.
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ModeratorI doubt you’d want to reinstall a laptop while playing out. You could install all the necessary software on a backup laptop and just carry the relevant license keys with you in a text file. But … unless you had a fully up and running backup laptop with all licensed software AND you were using an external drive for your music AND you’d have all of your analysis files and database info on the external drive, you’d be very hard pressed to get all that in working order during a gig. So you’d need to make sure everything is synced between the two laptops before you start your gig to avoid problems.
Over on the main site there is an article about disaster recovery, it shows what I (as a mobile DJ) do when certain scenario’s occur.
Clearly if you are dependent on your gear continuing to function, then having a controller with stand-alone abilities and something with backup mix to hook up to it pays dividend. This will at least buy you some time to sort out what the problem is and to either fix it or to setup the backup.
Personally I find that a controller with an iPad and your core collection can be a solid backup that doesn’t break the bank or takes up too much extra space in your car.
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ModeratorWe are not going to explain all this stuff for you in forum. Digital DJ Tips has wonderful reviews and to prevent you from having to find them all individually you can get the latest DJ Controller Guide. All the info you could want is in there.
Also we are not gonna tell you which is the best controller, because such a thing does not exist. And your question is wrong. You question should not be “which is the best”, but “which is the best FOR ME”.
Look on these forums for some posts on picking a starter controller. You will find many interesting posts that will help you towards your choice.
In short our process for picking a controller looks like this:
1) Determine your (desired or expected) workflow
2) Find the software that most closely matches your workflow
3) Set a budget
4) Select 2 (or max. 3) controllers that support your software and workflow and that are within your budget
5) Try to get some hands-on time (in a store, through friends with controllers, etx) with your shortlisted 2/3 controllers
6) Make your choice and start practicing!In general this is our list of good, solid starter controllers, all of which are suited for starters, all of which have their own pros/cons. Which one to pick? See the above process.
* Pioneer DDJ-SB
* Reloop BeatMix 2
* Numark MixTrack Pro
* Denon MC2000
* Traktor S2 (preferably only with Traktor software)
For all these models the latest is usually the best/most full-featured, but should you find a previous model or wanna go used, all the predecessors work well also.DJ Vintage
ModeratorI believe (but VDJ is the software I know the least about, so don’t shoot me) that there is a free version of VDJ, obviously with limitations, there is a one-time purchase, life-time free upgrades option and there is now a subscription model.
Theoretically that should get you the option of your choice. All you need to do is download and install the correct version (and pay if you picked a paid version).
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ModeratorMost hardware developers have their own asio drivers and are sometimes (a lot) behind developing new drivers. Asio4all is always current. I have solved quite a few problems in the past (when still on windows laptop) by swapping the standard asio driver for an asio4all one.
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ModeratorJust a few points here:
I’m s hobby dj that does online radio . I don’t play out but maybe one day as the station I’m on has done events in the past
Might wanna look at Yamaha AG03/06 mixer as an add-on. It’s positioned as webcasting tool and I must say it packs a lot of power into a very small unit that will happily live next to your controller.
2 channels . I’m going to digital exclusively so don’t really need 4
The two are not mutually exclusive, many controllers offer the option of swapping decks (and are called 4-deck controllers), in which case having 4 channels is far preferable to having 2. Again, if you don’t feel you need them, don’t worry about it.
Decent jog wheels as I don’t quite get these controllers without jogs . How do you adjust of a track starts running away
While I agree with your wish for jogs, on jogless units you’d either use the nudge buttons or (like on the S8/S5) a sort of needle strip. Not having tested it myself I can’t really comment, but people that do have the experience say that after some getting used to it actually works well enough (for the purpose). Since they are Traktor built, I guess lots of DJs utilize sync anyway because of all the other things they want to have going on from within Traktor (Stems, Remix decks, etx).
Maybe the short pitches on better stuff are OK but I find my mixtrack is not fine enough
Pitch sensitivty is the result of both pitch length and resolution coupled with range. Small length and low resolution leads to lesser performance, where you can only really get any kind of accuracy if you use the smallest range available (4-6bpm). By default this leads to the conclusion that long, high res faders are the best, and they are. But they take up a lot of real estate and generally speaking, high quality short(er) faders with high res will do very well, especially in the smaller ranges. So it really does depend on what kind of bpm range control you are typically looking for and even the percentage of the time you manually beat match and when you use sync (no shame in that imho).
You are well on your way of defining your workflow. And from there you can pick your software of choice. The Big Three have morphed into the Major Six as far as I am concerned:
* Traktor (works best with Traktor gear and vice versa)
* Serato
* RekordBox DJ
* Virtual DJ
* DJay Pro (Mac only)
* Mixvibes CrossPersonally I have never subscribed to the whole Pioneer hype. Lot’s of it has been marketing and outlandish pricing. And I have been a Denon DJ user since way way back and that love still sticks based on functionality and build quality. I have always felt that Denon has a better eye for what the mobile DJ wants than any of the other brands. And being a (mainly) mobile DJ that is important to me.
One of the most promising controllers for me personally is the MCX8000. Again, great for mobile jocks, bit overkill for your style of DJ-ing perhaps. Clearly Pioneer has some serious controllers. And depending on your software choice you can go for the S or R series.
As far as getting laughed at:
a) don’t worry about it. If you show up with a controller (even the big ones) you might get laughed at by the CDJ boys, if you show up with CDJs you can get laughed at by the vinyl boys and if you show up with vinyl, you might get laughed at by all the others for being a dinosaur (not likely but still).
b) let your music do the talking. Rock that house and know it and you don’t have to worry what others think.
c) the only people that even care what gear you use are “fellow” DJs, the only people in the house that really matter are the audience. Be sure you know who you are there for.
d) just shrug it off and do your thing.DJ Vintage
ModeratorIf it’s a driver you need for windows, you can always try the asio4all drivers.
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ModeratorYou are going from software to the mixer normally in what way?
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ModeratorHi Ben, I had to move your post from a reply to a totally unrelated post in the wrong forum to a post of it’s own in the correct forum.
Please take care to a) not ask a new question in an existing post and b) to post new questions in the right forum.
Also, there is no need to address your posts to Phil. While he may read posts here, the forums are independent of the main site. Terry_42 and I are the moderators. However you don’t have to address questions to any particular person. Just post your question and people will respond.
On-topic: Of course you should be able to hook up your mixer master out to the RCA in on your speakerset (back of the sub). Clearly this kind of speakers is made specifically for computer (gaming) use. 5.1 surround is useless for DJ-ing as you will only use stereo sound sources. If you don’t have speakers yet, you could look at low end like the M-Audio AV32 2.1 kit: http://www.bax-shop.nl/studio-monitor/m-audio-av-32-1-monitors-2-1-set.
A few steps up in quality but still good price/performance is looking at KRK (RP4, 5 or 6) to which you can add their sub. -
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