The post from you Terry kinda changed things up, maybe give Serato a chance even though I really am a Traktor guy ever since I started using TSP2 as my DVS system (and with the f1 it’s golden). Although now with a controller Im not going to be using the turntables so.. But are you 100% sure 4trak doesnt use HID with it’s jogs? After a lot of searching around it seems like it does, and the NS6 people (who wanna start using traktor) want to get their controllers jogs unlocked in HID for Traktor to get them like 4trak. I cant find any info stating 4trak doesnt use HID for its jogs.