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MemberDJ Retro Blaze, post: 18411, member: 1589 wrote: I do not think the point is invalid, as there are other options such as a controller. Talent has nothing to do with what you use, its how you use it. With that said, a lower cost point still attracts more less serious DJs to controllers that’s a fact. As you stated in your own words, the hobbyist. This is not to say that all controller users are hobbyist, by the way.
Except to enter the market with a controller you are still looking at a serious investment. Don’t all DJs start as a hobbyist? I’m pretty sure not many wake up one morning and decide to invest several thousand pounds/dollars in a new career.
To enter with a controller, most I would assume already have a laptop (£500), a good controller (£400 – S2), good monitors (£100), good headphones (£75). That’s a £1,100 investment for an initial hobby. It’s definitely not a low cost point.
I am a classically trained pianist, I have music training and music qualifications, yet my wife looked at me aghast when I mooted about entering the DJ world and the initial price point.
The other very important point is that someone can put their hands on, say, a Mixtrack Pro and learn the basics, learn to beatmatch manually if they so desire. What is the likelihood of someone wanting to start off being able to put their hands on vinyl, CDJ’s or DVS? Very very low is the answer.
I really cannot comprehend why these discussions and debates about technological evolution come up in every avenue, technology should be embraced, or we may as well go back to the days of black and white tv’s and CB radio!
MemberDJ Retro Blaze, post: 18403, member: 1589 wrote:
The second hurdle that controllers face is the low cost of entry does not filter out individuals who do not take the craft of DJing seriously.Yet the high cost of Vinyl and CDJ’s over the years has undoubtedly filtered out an immeasurable number of talented musicians. Your point is invalid – talent > all, high cost of planting your foot into what is initially a hobby simply pushes talented people away.
MemberWould definitely like one if you have any left.
MemberTraktor records in WAV format. You’ll need to use something like Audacity to convert it to MP3. For something like Mixcloud, encoding at 192kbps should bring a 60-80 minute mix below 100mb.
NOTE: You only want to encode at this bitrate for Mixcloud/Soundcloud where you are limited by file size.
MemberYou should buy the “How to Digital DJ Fast” course from this website, it’ll get you through the basics in record time.
MemberMWagner, post: 17985, member: 1852 wrote:
3. If you don’t want to shell out the money for Mixed in Key, there’s another program who’s name escapes me at the moment that’s free and decently accurate. Mixed in Key is a pretty great program though, accurate and easy as hell to use.Rapid Evolution 3.
March 26, 2012 at 1:57 pm in reply to: Do you play a musical instrument? (Recorder doesn't count…) #17357MemberClassically trained pianist.
MemberAs much memory as you can get, on Windows 7, 3-8 Gb is great, I’m running an i3 and all is fine.
Memory, HDD space are the most important things to consider. AND a good battery.
MemberI wanted to apologise to DJ Hessler if I came over as a bit of an ass!
We share the same birthday too ^^.
Definitely ordering the S2 or Denon MC3000 (when i find out a UK retailer) next weekend!
MemberDJ Hessler, post: 16900, member: 537 wrote: However I feel the need to add some notes here:
Software and controllers are IMO a very good thing because you can start with a cheap controller and
a station or laptop and get started as a DJ with a limited budget.On small clubs with limited space or at weddings/parties the software/controllers are also good because it is faster to rigg and takes smaller place (if you count out Denon S1200/x120 and Pio CDJ350/DJM350
But for Pro DJs in large clubs that has good space for CDJs I feel it is more Pro DJ to skip the laptop!
I wanted to highlight this point as a newcomer. It’s hard to get your head around what you need as a newbie, and frankly I wouldn’t know where to start if I had to buy CDJ, Mixer etc. The controller and software route is very “plug and play” and easy to comprehend.
I won’t, and can’t due to lack of experience, get into a debate about which is better because I don’t know, but it’s great that there are options – options that will make both routes evolve and improve over time.
MemberWhat is the price drop on the Denon controller? Where is the best place to order one in the UK?
Will be either the S2 or the Denon, choices choices, and want to order next weekend.
MemberDJ Hessler, post: 17293, member: 537 wrote: Just a clarification, no affence ment by it but just so you get a grip of things:
Traktor is the name of a DJ software not gear!
Native Instruments is the company that makes the software called Traktor
and they also make the hardware you mentioned.
Native Instruments is often shortened to NI……NI has a pricedrop on the S2 until 31/3 after that it will be more expencive.
So if you think about getting an S2 you better do it NOW!IMO the Denon MC3000 is a better choice because it has a bit better quality and
is smaller + have some more functions. But until 31/3 it is more expensive…..Actually, the products are called, to give them their full titles, Traktor Kontrol S2, F1, X1 and they link into the Traktor software. Amazingly, I also know who makes these products.
To be as pedantic as you however, the words are “offence” and “expensive”.
Thanks for the advice on the pricing of the S2 though. If I miss out on the discount, can I effectively DJ with a laptop and the X1 and F1?
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