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MemberHee Won Jung, post: 30997, member: 948 wrote: The problem you have with this is that most Punters dont know what to do during a breakdown…and you usually end up clearing the dance floor. Now if this is intentional like every 20 mins or 1/2 hour to get everyone to the bar to get a drink…then imo its totally acceptable…but dont forget the REAL reason why you are here to DJ. If 5 people in the whole venue think the breakdown is freakin unreal…but the rest of the people are there going…uhhh wheres the bass wheres the beat…then you are failing at your job. This also really has everything to do with the type of venue you are playing in. At Clubs and regular nights i make it a rule to never let breakdowns happen unless its an iconic breakdown or something that everyone recognizes…At Festivals and Huge events…its totally different as the Vibe and energy is a lot more emotional and those long breakdowns and synth lines will really make an impact.
Those are very good points. I guess that’s part of the reason I am not big into the club scene, everything is about bass and beats. Then again, I guess I was partially molded this way, there’s lots of breakdowns at trance shows, so maybe I am modeling my DJing after that.
October 26, 2012 at 3:55 pm in reply to: Getting better sound in your dj sets (Tony Andrews interview) #30840Will
Memberso if i come on after you playing 320 and i play WAV im simply going to sound better.
If you are playing in ure bedroom or to friends then there is no point really spending the extra cash but if you are playing out and earning money then in my opinion you have to give your listeners the best experience. If you are a dj that want to make your way up the food chain as it were… then to set yourself out from the rest play WAV.It surpirises me that almost everyone is defending mp3s compared to WAV.
How far up the food chain are you, exactly? Not to sound rude, but I have never heard of you. You are thinking about this too much.
I buy new music every week. I spend a good 15+ hours listening to new tracks I buy, every week. I pick out the best ones that I like and use them for DJ’ing. The only way to get most of my tracks is via Itunes or Beatport, and I am a broke office worker/cubicle slave. So I’m buying MP3’s and AAC’s.
If you are going to play WAV’s fine. I’m working on finite hard drive space, and a finite budget. If I can deal with a loss of just a fraction of fidelity, I’m pretty sure a room full of semi inebriated people who are there just to have fun are not going to notice a difference either. So yea, I think that you speaking on behalf of what DJ’s should or shouldn’t do is a bit pretentious.
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MemberReally depends on the type of music honestly.
I play alot of deep house with instrumental and orchestral breakdowns, and uplifting trance, and anything and everything in between that I think will fit that is EDM related.
I know some DJ’s look down on it, but I play a majority of my breaks, and I just don’t give a ^%U* what most people think. I don’t think it’s boring to have a 5-6 minute song play out, or parts where there are just synths or just a solo piano and no beat. I think the BEST parts of some songs are the breakdowns, when the producers hit those right chords that bring you to tears, or just make you feel elated or excited. This was why I got into DJing, so I could share this feeling. Am I going to cut out some of the most beautiful parts of a song, because it’s not standard practice?
Nope.
Will
MemberShow up at the place way before your gig to get an idea of their soundsystem and where to connect and what cables or accs you might need.
Practice
Don’t plan out your entire set, you are there to have fun and help others have fun. Nobody really cares about how tight your transitions are, just as long as the music is fun. Don’t fret too much about measuring up to anyone’s standards, it’s your first time out. They will be more forgiving than you think, and most will probably not even be paying attention if you are an opener anyways.
Go for a piss before your set starts, just to be extra sure, haha.
Best of luck to you. Knock them out of the park!
Will
MemberI would have to agree with Terry and take it a step further: don’t go with a mixtrack. You are actually stepping down, and quite a lot, even from a Behringer mixer, which feels like a weird thing to say (I like some Behringer equipment, but they are not the most highly looked upon).
Do yourself a favor early on, and always buy the best equipment you can get within your budget. If you DJ 3 nights a week, you should be pulling in some decent money. If not, save a little bit every week until you can afford something nice.
If you don’t want to drop the money on an s4, but you are looking for a great all around 2 deck mixer, you can’t do any better than a Traktor s2. It has balance 1/4″ outputs, you can run 1/4″ to XLR cables and maintain a balanced connection to the house system.
It’s $500, but it includes the Traktor 2.5 full license software (which separately is about $100). Look at it this way: sell your soundcard and your behringer mixer for $100-200, and you are already halfway there. You won’t need the two separate devices, because the s2 will replace both.
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MemberMarcellino Nugraha, post: 24818, member: 2451 wrote: What i always do when i create a mixtape is, im using a DAW and edit everything manually there
Otherwise known as: cheating.
In the end, you are cheating yourself if you pass out mixtapes and your abilities don’t match up to it when you play live. Club owners will not book you if you can’t deliver a consistent performance. I notice this with bands alot, they have a really well produced album, but when you go to their concert, they just plain suck at performing. That’s usually the first and last time I ever bother seeing them again.
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MemberI have an MC6000. Solid unit and def alot of manufacturer support on their forums. Denon keeps updating the firmware and adding profiles for Traktor on the Denon forum. That said, switch to Traktor and don’t look back.
Also, keep in mind that the VCI doesn’t have a dedicated sound interface, the MC’s have a fairly good sound card built in. One less thing thing to carry around a plug in.
Will
MemberUse your stronger ear to hear through your headphones, and use your other ear to hear what you are mixing into. That’s what it’s for. You can use split cue if you have it on your mixer as well. Read the instruction manual of your mixer to find out how to do it. If you have 2 outputs on your mixer, use one set as a monitor or booth out, and just bring one of the speakers you are using at home and set it up at the booth or table you are dj’ing at.
Have Fun. That’s what it’s about. If you are an opener, don’t worry to much about things, just play some good tracks but not bangers, get people in the mood. That’s your job as an opener. Be flexible and prepare a playlist, but don’t lock down an entire set, you want to be able to go places musically, and adjust to the crowd.
Also, I’m not trying to dis your gear, but eventually you might want to look at replacing that mixtrack with better gear in the future. It’s hard for old school guys to knock on a Traktor NS4, because so many established acts use them, or Denon gear or what not, but the Mixtrack does look somewhat toy-ish.
Practice your heart out these next two weeks. It’s like cramming for an exam. Crunch time man, get on it.
August 6, 2012 at 3:33 pm in reply to: My first big Club gig – Lessons Learned on my way there. #1009280Will
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BE YOU. For months, I worried about my breaks being too long. If you believe in your music, don’t worry about technical details. Your passion will see you through. I did some songs that killed the groove that I established, but I viewed it as a respite and building energy that would pay off in 2-3 songs. Don’t worry if people aren’t dancing, they will get there. If there is alcohol involved, eventually you can sample spoken words from a phonebook to a 4/4 beat and people will dance to it.
If you are opening: take a sec and meet your following act. Be friendly, you will probably be working with him/her/them in the future. I stepped away from the decks and walked over to where he was, said hey, told him how many songs I was gonna play before I anticipated my set ending, and told him I was gonna end on a something with a long deep break and was gonna come down to 128bpm and just give me a nod when he was ready to mix in. He had been around the block, and was rocking the old CDJ’s and such, so I’m pretty sure he didn’t need the details, but being friendly and building rapport are always good things.
After your set:
Stick around for a bit, and get to know some people. I talked to the bar staff, and the promoters. Everyone thought I killed it, and wanted me to stay. I got some free booze. Danced a little, as awkward as I am. Finally I talked to the Manager, and told him how much I loved the crowd, and love the vibe of the place, and told him I wanted to come back. He is gonna work out a night for me to be in their rotation, and possibly have me just do a full set, without an opener because he loved the range of my music. I didn’t get paid for the gig, nor was I expecting to or even wanting to. I did it, because I love music and want to prove to myself and to others that what I loved was worth listening to, and once I get my foot in that door, the opportunities will be open for me.
TL;DR:
3 years of just learning to love music. 1 1/2 years of just practicing on a kit. A whole year of seeking out gigs, and learning to live with setbacks, challenges, personal apathy, and finally, finding my motivation.
– Thanks Phil
– Love your music. Believe in your music. Believe in yourself.
– Persevere. Don’t give up.
– Do your homework. Keep practicing.
– Actively look for opportunities.
– Put in some legwork, build bridges, share your passion.
– Follow up.
– Prepare.
– Do your set. Be you. Have Fun.
– Be thankful, gracious. Kill any ego you might have. Laugh off mistakes, and let the music win them over.Will
MemberLiving Legend Colm G, post: 274 wrote: Only getting one! I know I said “them”, but I always say that about decks 😉
They are in stock on 30th June so should have them in a couple of weeks. What software are you using? As I mentioned above, my trainee had Virtual DJ which I was ok with, but I know in Europe they are shipping with Traktor which I have limited knowledge of.
Cheers for the help
Virtual DJ is quite rubbish, in my opinion, and has stability issues with the MC6000. Go to Denondjforums.com, they are the actual Denon support site where you can find the firmware updates and troubleshooting support.
I use traktor pro (the first one, not pro 2, haven’t upgraded yet). It works perfect with traktor pro, and pro 2. There was a bug with sketchy pitch control, but has since been fixed with a firmware update.
I’d say go with traktor pro or pro 2. The effects are great and the MC was built really for use with Traktor. Every feature is mapped perfectly and latency is really really low. It won’t take long to learn, I pretty much got the hang of it within a week of using it.
Not to blow my own whistle, but if you want a peek of what this unit can do by itself with just traktor, check out some of my mixes on mixcloud: http://www.mixcloud.com/arionfrost
I’m a total newb to the DJ’ing game (2 months or so), but this kit has really given me confidence to learn. Within two weeks, I stopped using sync, and now mainly use beatgridding with the pitch sliders. After a few months with the MC6000, I might just move over to CDJ’s as well.
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MemberLiving Legend Colm G, post: 194 wrote: I read the review at the time but glad you linked it cos it’s reminded me on some bits I had forgotten. I have to wait a couple of weeks until it’s in stock for Ireland but can’t wait to get my hands on them!
I’m not great at the technical side of this as I have only DJ’d a few times using a laptop, on my trainee’s Hercules decks, so i’m sure I will be asking for alot more advice from you guys when they arrive 😉
I just want to pitch in that I actually have the DN-MC6000. Great unit, I couldn’t imagine using anything else to start with. A question though: are you getting one or two? You only need one unit, it has control over 4 decks.
Denon has trouble fulfilling orders worldwide. I had to wait a month for my MC to come in, but it’s well worth the wait.
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