TheReturn

this is a genre?

The others are right. This is just one ‘explosion’ in dance music among many.

Read this for a great perspective of club culture over the years:
http://www.amazon.com/Last-Night-DJ-Saved-Life/dp/0802136885

Are you talking about ‘vinyl mode’ in a DVS system or using real vinyl?

Its pretty much exactly the same as you said.

“match tempos by ear, and get the beats perfectly lined up with nudging”

Its just that the nudging is a bit different. You can nudge the actual record, or you can touch the platter or you can apply pressure to the spindle, or ride the pitch.

What works best will be dependent on your system. How you choose to do it is really down to the physical the characteristics of the turntable and the the records that you’re using.

Some of my worst gigs, or at least the ones I that I performed the worst (not sure what the crow thought) were the ones where I’m totally sober. These are also normally ones where I’ve chosen to be sober because of a hangover from the night before.

I think I perform so poorly in these cases because its a combination of not being on the same level as the punters, and a tendency to over-think things and not go with the flow. This can turn into a vicious cycle and the nerves can increase dramatically.

So my advice would be to drink a little, but not a lot.

D-Jam, post: 28648, member: 3 wrote:

Case in point. If that tight little scene wants to complain how Skrillex “hijacked” their sound and cheesed it up, then perhaps they should do more to broaden their sound as opposed to trying to keep it their exclusive little world. .

Whats interesting is the best of the dubstep scene in the UK (IMHO) has already moved on to new sounds. Labels like Planet Mu, Eglo, Warp, TT, Night Slugs, Deep Medi Musik, Hessle Audio Swamp 81, Dummy Mag, Tectonic, Lucky Me, Merck etc etc have moved in many different directions and so have many of their followers. Some key artists that come to mind James Blake, Burial, Headhunter (aka Addison Groove), Mark Pritchard, OM Unit just to name a few have expanded well beyond their dubstep roots.

Maybe the vinyl only thing has had something to do with it, maybe a reaction to skrillex has helped it as well, or maybe there will always be progressives in the scene, just like there will always be musical conservatives who try to hold onto paradise lost.

Like D-Jam said its your choice about what sounds and which people you want to associate yourself with, so don’t let the medium hold you back. (My advice would be to embrace as many mediums as you can)

D-Jam, post: 28509, member: 3 wrote: Before Beatport and DVS, you mainly bought vinyl, or some were all over Kazaa downloading rips and stolen unreleased stuff from the big names. You had scarcity, so one could see what was “new” and what wasn’t.

IMHO…I loved how digital destroyed that. More new people, more competition, and thus more chances to find your own sound and your own unique stuff.

Thats not quite what I was getting at.

I always thought EDM just an umbrella word used to describe a bunch of electronic genres.

I wasn’t aware that people like the poster’s friend also see EDM as a concept or ‘way of life’ that dictates how and why music should be played and appreciated.

I’m sure there are endless motivations for why an artist or label may release vinyl only. Sometimes its tradition, sometimes its legality, other times it is just marketing just to name a few.

But I think its mainly a generational thing and its is mainly done by artists whose genres have their roots in vinyl (hip hop, disco, house, reggae, techno, dubstep (yes dubstep), funk etc). However, in the scheme of things it is only a very very small proportion of music that is released this way.

In my opinion, these guys are just trying to keep a harmless tradition alive, and if they see vinyl only releases as a way of a achieving that, then more power to them.