Terry_42
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KeymasterHey there,
reading through your preferences of workflow, music and mixing I clearly think you would like Serato more and I do not think you will need much adjustment at all to get going with it.
I am however not sold on the DDJ-SZ2 as it just is overly big, do not get me wrong I like big controllers, I just find the Denon MCX8000 to be a much better controller overall.Terry_42
KeymasterWell the NSz II and III are both fantastic devices. I have used the NS7 II extensively as I did some product presentations with it at a DJ store to show it off, so my routines had to be good and this thing works flawlessly.
Even though I use a controller with screens myself (I mainly use the Denon MCX8000) I am not 100% sold on screens on controllers. But I guess that is up to your workflow. I rarely look at the laptop (mostly to select the next song) and then do most of the controller stuff “blind” as I know the controller so well I do not need to look, excpet maybe if I scratch. So maybe depending on your style the version II will be sufficient.
Also the NS7 series has motorized platters. I really liked those (as I started DJing with vinyl and still have some record decks for DVS use when I feel the need to touch vinyl hehe) however it is something more that can die on you and it is mechanical parts moving…
So you have to decide if that moving platters are worth the extra complexity/weight and maintenance. I mean I loved them, but in the end I found that I could perform all my scratch moves on very good jogwheels as well with little to no adjustment, hence why I went for the MCX8000.
So if the NS7 is up your alley you can definitely not go wrong with it, it is an excellent controller, build like a tank and has tons and tons of features. I recommend getting a flightcase for it for gigs, yes it will make it even heavier, but in a gigbag it just wobbles around too much due to its weight.Terry_42
KeymasterThe Mixon seems to be very capable. I have not tried it yet, but usually reloop has great build quality and lots of bang for the buck. It also seems to be quite universal working with djay and Serato.
Most other controllers in that price range will cater towards one software or another.Really good are also the Numark NV, the Pioneer DDJ SX is dropping in that price range also and of course the Denon controllers.
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KeymasterSerato DJ Intro is quite capable actually, however the full version is tons above it.
Just wait for one of Serato’s sales. They have them regulary and most of the time it will be 50% off. That is a great value.Terry_42
KeymasterHonestly I do not like the VMS lineup as it is all a bit plasticy.
They do work, but are not really my cup of tea in build quality.
I did never use the 33rxi, but the Beatpad 2 I have tried and liked it very much. One of the best iPad controllers.Why you would want to add outdated CDJs to anything is beyond me however.
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KeymasterCongratulations!
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KeymasterHey and welcome! Have fun around here.
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KeymasterHey and welcome! You have come to the right place!
Suggestion: Look around a bit and if you still have questions feel free to ask 🙂Terry_42
KeymasterYes currently Rekordbox has no autoplay, softwares that do are Serato, Traktor, Cross, VDJ and DJay.
December 30, 2016 at 9:25 am in reply to: Pioneer DJM 900 nxs & 2x CDJ 2000 purchase advice #2485421Terry_42
KeymasterMarnik I am well aware of this and I said it is happening. It always takes an initial club to do it in a town and the rest of the town will follow.
However I do not know where you are located, but everywhere I traveled, while CDJs still were there, many DJs had their controllers hooked up to the DJM and ignored the CDJs. They just were “still there”.
And the most important thing of all:
If you want to make it and stand out, you have to break the rules (not the law).
If you want to be generic DJ #1,212,212,564,123 who shows up with a playlist on a USB stick and all you can do is beatmatch and mix, then that is where you will stay. Some will do better than others depending on their music choice and crowd reading abilities, but you will never stand out.
However if you show up with your Controller and you are doing live remixing, slicing, flipping, stems, remix decks,… whatever flaots your boat and gets your creativity humming, you will stand out.
My greatest successes were back in the CDJ days, when I first brought my Roland step sequencer into the booth. I got recognized and landed my first successful residency.
The same happened a few years back (already semi-retired) I jumped in for a friend at a festival as warmup (worst slot ever, still hot 4pm afternoon so no real lightshow as it was sunny bright) and I simply had my Terminal Mix 4 and my Maschine. Honestly I did not really care and just wanted to try this live what I had been experimenting with. I got booked out that day for the rest of the year.So what I am trying to say is very very simple actually:
– Yes you can still easily DJ on CDJs, they did not stop working
– Skills transfer, if you DJ usually on controllers, even if they make you us CDJs at your club, you can still do it (I charge extra if they do)
– CDJs are a bad investment as they are expensive gear for little they can doIf you care so much about CDJs you can buy a cheap DDJ-SB learn how to beatmatch manually by not using sync, learn how to nudge on the jogwheels and maybe loop and you know how to DJ on CDJs. The skills are transferrable without you spending 2000 bucks, you spent 200 and have actually the better equipment at home.
If you are afraid that you will not see anything on the CDJs and you need to practice? Well if you learned on your mixtrack and have all the skills down, you can easily ask at most clubs to get 30min for “gear checks and sound calibration” and familiarize yourself with the layout of the CDJ setup, which is easily enough. (The manuals for CDJs are also online…)So what I am trying is to save a stundent money, as buying into CDJs is totally worthless and while they still may be present at your end of the world, it is only a matter of time. But then I am old enough to have seen enough DJs go out of business because they were only “conformists” and not rule breakers. So whatever floats your boat, I have only been trying to save you money and give what I feel an expert view on the matter. (Because another rule of success is: Give back – what I am trying to do here, but it will not cost me sleepless nights if you buy the Nexus setup.)
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KeymasterBig no to the Hercules, the rest are all solid choices.
I kinda like the low profile jogs and gain knobs on the Beatmix. The mixtrack pro will prolly fetch the best price when you want to sell it again and the Pioneer is the trendy choice and has nice crossmix features.
All in all personal preference and you cannot go wrong with any of those.
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KeymasterHey and welcome! Haha I might have seen you in Pag then, or maybe you me, I was on stage for I think the last 3 years 😉
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KeymasterHmm that is weird then.
iTunes seems to work well then, I would go and call up Pioneer support as there is obviously something wrong in the software. This is exactly how I use my Mac and Rekordbox and it works fine.December 29, 2016 at 9:46 am in reply to: Pioneer DJM 900 nxs & 2x CDJ 2000 purchase advice #2484961Terry_42
KeymasterSorry but you read wrong. Playing standalone is not “the thing” anymore. It is a relic, such is Nexus gear.
The whole Nexus2 setup is less efficient as ANY controller, even your S2.As far as learning software: If you can DJ you do not need to learn a DJ software. They all work the same. Yes for my live work I primarily use Serato, but as a staff member here at Digital DJ Tips I am using all the software titles (Serato, Rekordbox, Traktor, Cross, DJay Pro,…) at home to keep up to date with features and development. And I can tell you Rekordbox is a 1:1 copy of Serato, but to each their own.
From what you are writing I have to assume you are at a beginner level as a DJ, to invest in outdated equipment will not help you in any way.
Then why do my local DJs tell me that Pioneer standalone is the thing?
Well honestly they are afraid. Instead of evolving themselves there is a growing number of older DJs that have started on CDJ and do not want to get over it. They see that a kid with a 200 bucks controller can actually do more then they can and hence they try to convince the kid that what he does is “not the thing” as when the club manager or promoter would pick up on it, they would not have their job anymore. That is why idiotic old DJ bricks tell you that is the thing.
The really good old DJs (like our very own Phil, Steve, Chuck and myself) we are all in the business 20+ years. We started out on record decks with self made mixers, went to real scratch turntables with real mixers, got into CDJs and now evolved to controllers.
The really big clubs (those that make industry policy) like Ministry of Sound (London), Octagon (Seoul), Pradise (Brasil), Boss (Barcelona),… they actually expect you to have that gear. Their tech will call you waht you bring and how he should hook it up for you. Even smaller clubs and bars in my home town have sold their CDJ gear as everyone starts bringing controllers, they only have house mixers that you connect to, end of line. Yes this is not the case everywhere in the world (yet), but it soon will be.
Same goes for festivals, I have played in front of 10.000 people on a Terminal Mix 4 + Maschine setup and blew the roof off them.Then why does >insert famous DJ name< still play CDJs? Money. Pioneer pays high rolling DJs to use their gear. Secondly they would not care as their main task is actually producing songs and most of their sets will come pre-recorded on a USB stick as this is much easier to align lightshow and dancers perfectly to something they know. The few that play live (van Dyke, van Buuren,...) actually may have a full Nexus setup on the table, but their custon midi controllers and about 3 laptops and additional mixers are also on board, or like Skrillex they have a setup that they built themselves and have CDJs there that are not even connected for show. But by all means if you want to waste money on outdated gear, go ahead, but we cannot in good faith support that decission. A far better investment would be to buy a cheaper controller and get one of our courses with the money you saved.
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KeymasterI am sorry the info you give is a little thin.
Do you let iTunes organise your music in its folders, or do you just add it to playlists?
I never see that update thing, are you using iTunes Match or Music?
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