Alchemy432

“A lot of the artists you just posted are either many many years defunct or are full on drum & bass. Not “jungle” at all.”

When I first posted my reply I linked to a song from every artist I listed that was undeniably jungle. this post got deleted, not by me and I don’t know why. what is ironic is in the original post I literally wrote the same thing about your post. something along the lines of:

“+1 for benny page, eveson & duoscience, all good stuff there, but all liquid, not jungle”

I posted 3 lists, the 2nd & 3rd where clearly labeled as not jungle. So I’m going to assume you’re referring to the first list and that you don’t just go around half reading s**t and then addressing the arms and legs without acknowledging the rest of the body.

everyone in the first list has produced excellent jungle tunes. this is fact.
what I will agree with you about is that yes, those tunes I’m thinking of are old.
However some not as old as you may think though, the artists listed there produced good jungle tunes from 94′-2007ish or more recent off the top of my head.

Also while I agree that some of the artists listed are ‘defunct’ as you put it, many of those artists are not ‘defunct’.
Photek, Andy C, LTJ Bukem, Congo Natty/Tribe of Issachar, London Elektricity, Roni Size, all produced jungle tunes in the 90’s and still produced tunes is the 00’s and most of are still releasing tunes today. now the tunes they release today are not jungle, but in the 90’s it was.

So that addresses your point about whether things are jungle or not.
now to explain why I posted some older tunes…

The thread author posted “Looking at doing a kinda Reggae/Jungle thing.” and mentioned that they loved the jungle from the 90’s & was aware that ‘dnb had taken over’.

I only know of a handful of modern jungle tunes, I noticed that many of the artists you listed I’d not heard before, so I thought, I’ll post the ones he didn’t mention, they may not all still be making jungle, the tunes may be old but at least its jungle; and perhaps the thread author will see some in their he’d not heard before and choose to use them in his ‘thing’ regardless of the tunes being ‘old’.

So that’s it.

However if you want to you can continue reading to understand what my own personal definition of ‘jungle’ is.

Peace.

Off the top of my head and from the perspective of a producer my definition of jungle is as follows:

As for the general good vibes and jazz/funk mood and melodic elements of jungle liquid, anything ‘hospital’, anything jazz/funk influenced. which is quite a broad range of sounds. the darker side of jungle & the more upbeat nrg styles evolved into other sub genres.

I posted a pretty epic reply here earlier today which has disappeared which sux because I put alot of effort into it.

I then posted something along the lines of ‘hey my post disappeared! why? :(” which never showed up so this is my last attempt.

I gonna have to go with my gut and assume I posted too many links to you tube videos as this has been the case with other forums but its a bit disappointing to have my posts disappear without any notification that its happened.

Jungle:
Photek
Adam F
Andy C
LTJ Bukem
Congo Natty/Tribe of Issachar
Hidden Agenda
Sci-clone
Alex Reese
Wax Doctor
DJ Ded
London Elektricity
Roni Size
Omni Trio
P-Funk
Peshay
J Majik
Alladin
Doc Scott
Aphrodite & Micky Finn have a couple of good tunes too…

also these guys whilst not typically jungle producers, have a few really good jungle tracks:
Gaudi
Lamb
Apex Twin
Thunderball
Salmonella Dub

Then for reggae/dub/jungle infuenced Liquid:
MIR Crew
Big Bud
Benny Page
Bungle
Future Prophecies
High contrast
Sub Focus
Shy FX
Serial Killaz
EZ Rollers

Peace

1) Would you like to see such a competition? If yes, how often (monthly, bi-monthly, quarterly, yearly, other)?

you know already, but to officially voice in the poll, yes, and as often as is practical, if I had to guess, bi-monthly.

2) Would you participate if we had such competition? If yes, would you participate occassionally or every time?

everytime I could for as long as it was fun or I was learning something. it would help motivate me. if not everytime, every second time.

3) Do you think there should be a senior/junior DJ competition or just one big one?

I don’t mind either way, personally I would still enter and still get something good out of it even if these vet’ dj’s kicked my ass everytime.

4) What criteria do you think a mix should be judged on?

enjoyability? not sure really. I think perhaps it should depend on the structure of the comp, do we choose our own material or have a list of tunes provided and its up to use to show what we can do with those tunes?… I think probably everyone having the same tunes to work with would make it easier to judge, or if each comp had a theme or genre… and certain set lengths I think should be a parameter also..

5) What kind of reward do you think is suitable for the winner?

winning.

hope that helps some,
Peace