Sumir
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February 2, 2012 at 10:35 pm in reply to: A 10 minute rant ALL DJs/Producers should listen to. [[Mature Content]] #1002830
Sumir
MemberThe kid in the top video is just plain irritating . Iceman has valid points, he echos what and why I bitch about today’s generation of wanna be dj’s. I also agree what he said about medium not making a difference. I’m still a vinyl junkie, but if someone chooses to spin via other mediums and has skill , and more imporantly… humility with the proper intention (love for the people & scene ) and are not in it for selfish fame/$$$ motivations ..then they have my respect.
MemberK I jumped around some in it. I’m not a digital guy, so I won’t comment much on your sampling and so on. Other than to say limit it, and concentrate 100% on beat matching. One trick I learned as a kid was to keep track B’s pitch at full speed, easier initially for the untrained ear. Take your time , don’t rush to get shitty mixes out. Develop your skills, concentrate on beat matching. Learn to count the beats. I had my crates all set out by BMP at the start, my brother made me count each records bpm . Feel free to pm me if you like . Good luck, keep practicing.
MemberI’m listening to it now
MemberFirst gig was a blast, my brother was my teacher..I was his little shadow . Before I would help him set up lights, carry the gear and all that to his sets around town. But that night he let me open the night for a good sized crowd, on a pretty nice system. Monitor was set up for shit, so had to use the closest one to the booth from the floor. Lucky for me his DJ partner watched over me, to make sure I didn’t train wreck . That’s probably why I wasn’t nervous at all, I actually got a couple compliments (all though from a couple of my bro’s friends..but hey lol). Felt damn good. The memories are fresh still …22 yrs later..feels like it was yesterday thinking about it ..funny that 😉
MemberBirthday suit. Keeps things fresh n breezy.
MemberFor gigs back in the day, I traveled around the states here. Midwest, West, Mid-Atlantic,NE etc.
For non-gig related travel – I used to take Greyhound buses all over the map for raves, and to visit friends, (or both). As a kid I went to India several times with my family, my parents were born there. So we went and met with relatives sometimes. In 2002 I went to India on my own for the 1st time, and have not stopped going for a minimum of 3 months every year since then. Actually worked it out , and I’ve been there more over the last decade, than here in the states . I usually stick to the mountain areas, specifically the Himalayas ..I actually have an apt there now. Did a lot of the tourist India travel on my visit in ’02 with relatives. So now I just stick to the hills, much nicer..quieter..fully different life. The village I stay in there has a population of a few thousand people . Of that ya only see 10% out and about…or less. Can’t wait to get back, just here on a pit stop ;). I’ve also been to Nepal a couple times, and London once. Spent 13 hrs at the airport in Munich , Germany in 2009, on my way to India. I think I saw more Germany, than I can handle on that airport layover lol. I’d like to get to Tibet , maybe spend 3-6 months out there. Also would love to get to Japan, and Italy at some point during my lifetime.Memberrock climbing, travel, being in the mountains.
Member*lays down on emma’s sofa* So..Doc..i was having this dream…;-) I’m not currently working, just came back from a 2+ year trip to India. But I usually work in the retail world, because this allows me to run away on my long adventures. I’ve done this since 2002.
January 30, 2012 at 1:41 am in reply to: Do you play a musical instrument? (Recorder doesn't count…) #13635MemberSadly, no. I attempted with guitar in Jr. HS, a couple friends and I were gonna be the next Metallica, damnit :-p. I would love to learn piano and a percussion .
MemberQuite difficult to narrow it down to only 5, I love movies. But , here are 5 that come to mind:
1) The Cell
2) Goodfellas
3) The Godfather(s)
4) Felon
5) Crazy HeartJanuary 29, 2012 at 8:25 pm in reply to: DJ NAMES: How did you choose yours? Ever wish you'd chosen a different one? #13619MemberAround 1989 , when I was learning to spin, I had some sort of name aimed at being a hip hop dj, ‘kid..’ something or another lol. When I moved past that awful phase, and started with trance & techno. than initially I went with the name “Hava”. I was told around that time that my real name , Sumir means “good air”, like I’m supposed to bring a good feeling around (sure got that one wrong 😉 ) . So ‘hava’ in my family’s native tounge (hindi), means ‘air’ . Got hit with the idea playing a track from another artist, called ‘Havana’. I think I stuck with the Hava name until 98 or so, then switched to using my first name, Sumir.
Membervineoak, post: 13596, member: 1029 wrote: i do what a lot of dj’s do.they spend time preparing their mix prior to performing.do you think tiesto just goes into a gig and picks random tracks on his pc.bollocks to that.he’ll know exactly which tracks to play..their bpms etc.he’ll have programmed cue points too.the real skill is still analogue mixing without a pc.no visual aids make djing so much harder.the only cheat i use and it isnt a cheat is to construct my mix in mixmeister fusion.i use this just to get a feel for the tracks im putting together and it gives you the bpms and keycode values too.
For the record, I’m not a Tiesto fan at all, but that’s another story :-p . Cue points, and gig prep is fine. Esp having a general idea of a track selection. Otherwise I would have had to carry all my crates to every gig, back in the day lol. Yes , I could not imagine squinting at my laptop screen all the time when spinning at a gig. Getting a feel for the bpms as you sayis fine man. my rant is aimed at the zero talent people who have not earned their dues.
Membervineoak, post: 13590, member: 1029 wrote: agree totally with your rant lol.button monkies get gigs at es paradis in next few years……i bet
yeah , I’m all about technology , where the beep would we be w/out it after all. but when things get too simple, it just makes for a lack of talent. My older brother (4 yrs older then me, I’m 38) started to mix with 2 cassette decks, that had pitch adjusters . It was that much in his blood stream to f-ing to it. If you can learn to mix on crap, mixing on real gear is a hell of a lot easier…is what he taught me . I mean..how can you learn to mix, beat match..if you don’t..beat match?? FFS use something that thing in your head, your mind , intelligence , and senses. I can not recall the insane amount of time spent in my brothers dj partners garage, trying with great failure to mix as a kid. Man, now being this age feels damn good lol.
Membervineoak, post: 13586, member: 1029 wrote: you could check out this controller.
http://serato.com/articles/scratchlive/1997/how-to-use-the-denon-dn-hc4500-with-scratch-liveI have it bookmarked, took a quick peek. Near 5 a.m here now , I’ll look closer later in the day..ty.
Membervineoak, post: 13574, member: 1029 wrote: lets clear up some mis-understandings you have.here’s my analogue setup.
http://www.djresource.eu/Gearbase/gear/1073/
http://it.audiofanzine.com/piatto-per-dj/technics/SL-1210-MK5/medias/a.play,m.260797.html
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=denon dn s5000 pictures&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1920&bih=1025&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=JP82SVWgYdInxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.bombhiphop.com/newbomb/bombpages/equipment.html&docid=zDPQjZo7wXZG8M&imgurl=http://www.bombhiphop.com/newbomb/bombpages/images/DN-S5000.jpg&w=432&h=496&ei=kgIlT-KVPIq20QXN3eHOCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=678&vpy=133&dur=2522&hovh=241&hovw=209&tx=119&ty=149&sig=111492122379724213569&page=1&tbnh=153&tbnw=133&start=0&ndsp=43&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0
(this site covers technics+denon dn s5000+serato)right lets explain.the 2 turntables and mixer is the standard analogue only setup which was pre digital.now here’s where it gets slightly complicated for the uninformed digital newbie.lets delve into the digital world.it started out with companies like stanton(final scratch)introducing a thing called time coded vinyl.this was a system that had a little box with inputs and outputs which interfaced your pc via usb to your analogue setup.(decks and mixer).this setup comes with timecoded vinyl 12″records X2 AND 2 timecoded cd’s X2.now lets explain the extent of how much this digital setup functions.the best way to describe this follows.imagine taking your record bag full of vinyl and sticking it in the bin.(you have prior to this backed up your collection to an external hard drive or direct to your pc/laptop).the second thing to take into account is this comes with a software program called serato.the program has 2 decks which mimic the movements you make on your turntable platters.now i have to say this setup is the bastard son of the digital setups being used today.what do i mean you say?.well lets explain.i class this setup as an analogue/digital hybrid.the pc is the storage and visual medium for your mixing.but you still are using hardware to create the mix.such things like bpm matching does not apply to serato as you are still using the old pitch sliders on your turntables.now there is a difference when you use some cdj’s.they do have some digital functions like sync /bpm matching.(depends on make and model).now as sumir asked about sync matching ill explain.see link below.
http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/05/10/review-denon-mc6000/
now imagine your analogue setup with my gemini bpm500 and the crossfader has gone or the unit is faulty and you decide to get a new mixer.the denon mc 6000 will replace the old mixer no problem.this is because it can work as a standalone analogue mixer.notice the pitch controls.(imagine a clock dial they are located at 1 o’clock in relation to jog wheel b or 1 o’clock in relation to jog wheel a(left of low/mid/high knobs).sync but does not apply here.thats serato described i think…if i missed out anything let me know.now lets go to digital with the denon mc6000.this uses the same principle as serato,just the interface is different.the pc and storage is the same.traktor or virtual dj le editions come bundled with the denon mc6000 depending on region.this unit comes with a switch where you can go pc/int.the pc goes to pc mode where the software mixing interface is pc orientated.mixer controls software on screen.internal mode relies on how you manipulate your hardware(decks etc).in pc mode there is an auto sync mode for bpm matching-i do stress this point for sumir that is an additional function that does not have to be used.manual pitch via sliders can still be used.
and finally see my other hardware below.
http://serato.com/articles/scratchlive/1997/how-to-use-the-denon-dn-hc4500-with-scratch-livethis is purely a digital controller.not for external setup.have’nt used it yet so ill have to see which software it works with.
my last point.i know serato can be used with ableton via bridging software.hope this post helps and please rate it.thanks.
http://serato.com/thebridgeWhen i get over to Guitar Center, I’ll play around with the Denon ya mentioned. Pretty caught up to speed on how things started with serato, and how it works etc. I’ll take to the guys down there too, compare some models. Seein as how you’re using your vinyl decks (it feels funny to have to type “vinyl decks” lol..) , I think ya know where I’m coming from with precision control. Now the serato , I have to say I didn’t know the hardware was made by Rane! I love Rane, my MP 22 has with stood abuse, and then some. That alone is a huge selling point, reliability , just like the tech 12 workhorses.
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Yeah i’m just gonna say pointblank, I can’t fathom the interest behind synching . Asides from tool to assist with learning beat matching, until the ears are developed. It sort of takes the …mixing…out of ..well , mixing LOL. I can see a time down the road when voice commands are given “mix track A with track B”, auto mix sets in , and the person is a DJ now BAM! Producers create their own music, from a-z, all the way through, and could care less about the title , at all. All others do not create their own music, but are quick as hell to run into chat rooms calling themselves “producers”. DJ’s mix tracks from 2 different decks (be it wonderful yummy vinyl, or todays mediums), from a-z, with no shortcuts, and don’t give a rat’s *** about the title of “DJ”. All others , download some software, click here , and there a few times, auto-everything, zero effort, and no skill. Then run around and call themselves “DJ’s”. …if dj stands for disc jockey..what does button jockey ..ah nvm LOL . I’ve been seeing a lot of what just talked about in chat rooms, going back years. Most these kids have no desire to put in actual effort, and zero respect for those that put in years of serious time, and effort.***********************************************************
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