DJ Can't DJ
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ParticipantI certainly was mixing ‘main parts’ at first, but not now. I’ve not had time to practice for a while thanks to my controller developing a fault, but, is it quite normal to have to adjust the faders then? The reason I ask is the same as before; that every single video I’ve seen – professional DJ or not – people seem to be able to simple kill the bass and play two tracks together, without an increase in volume.
With my controller and Cross DJ, that’s impossible, but I did take the advice in here and try it with Virtual DJ, and the problem still seemed to occur (though I don’t think it was as noticeable).
How do people keep a rolling bassline if they’re having to pull track 1 down a bit, while raising track 2? Every time I try that, there’s a noticeable drop – or ‘dullness’ – in the bass. I mean, with the bass killed and the hi down about 5%, I can still only bring that track up to about 75% before the VU going into the red.
Is there an issue with digital DJing compared to analog?
Also, in reply to another post above; it’s not my speakers. I’ve tried my laptop speakers, hi-fi speakers, USB speakers, going directly through an amp – the problem still occurs. I honestly have no idea what I’m doing wrong. I seem to have exhausted every possible option. Even if I gain each track correctly, there is a war between the two of them and the VU goes into the red.
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ParticipantIn fact, that’s still not a great example – I didn’t upload the mix where I played two tracks together for too long. Cutting the bass isn’t enough, even though it seems to be for everyone else! Could it be the gear I’ve bought? I’m not exactly rich.
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ParticipantI don’t want to let them play together for too long. I’ve been trying all sorts since I started this topic and I just can’t get it right. The only way I managed it was by, as I said before, using the gain slightly, almost as additional faders, when the faders are both max.
I really need help, as nothing I do seems to work. If you ask me, it’s very noticeable on here: https://soundcloud.com/mattletrance/learning-to-mix-tips-please. The VU always goes into red when I play two tracks together.
I used Mixvibes LE and this: http://www.decks.co.uk/products/digital_dj/gemini/Firstmix_Pro#.UvjMopz91LM.
I know I’ve waffled on a bit, but I personally think keeping the levels the same is the last thing I need to conquer, and it’s driving me insane!
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ParticipantThank you for the feedback! I noticed you listened to the second mix – did you listen to the first one at all? I ask because in the second mix, I turn up and down the gain during every transition – otherwise it DOES sound loud – and I want to get out of the habit of doing that. The first mix I didn’t – I only messed around with the EQs and left the tracks playing together at full volume.
I’ve just tried doing another mix and I used the faders only to control the volume. I felt very rushed when bringing one track down, and the other up, before making the final transition, if you know what I mean. So I brought one track in gradually, while taking the other out at the same time, and never having them both at full volume at the same time. Is that an acceptable way to DJ?
I’m very new, hence all then questions, and I don’t want to model myself on professionals, but I certainly need a starting point! 🙂
Hope I’m not boring you. I really do appreciate the feedback so far!
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ParticipantXavier D; I use Mixvibes – which has a limiter – though it doesn’t seem to make any difference whether it’s on or off!
DJ Vintage; I’ve not used the crossfader. I’ve knocked it by accident (no option to disable it), but never really properly used it. Faders only.
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ParticipantThanks for the replies, guys, though I’m a bit lost with some of the replies.
I should have included these videos with my question(s). Here is one of Markus Schulz playing two tracks at the same time, various times, and it slightly touched the gain (I’d assume like I tried, but he seems to touch it much less): http://youtu.be/8twNwhMY1B8. His mix doesn’t sound any louder when playing two tracks at the same time.
Here’s one of Carl Cox doing the same, but I don’t seem to see him touch the gain: http://youtu.be/FBIj6Qt2o7A. I’m sure he plays two tracks together with the bass fully up on both, too.
What am I doing wrong then? Here’s two ‘mixes’ of mine: https://soundcloud.com/mattletrance. Some of the mixing is absolutely atrocious, but I’m trying different things. The first once I uploaded, I messed with the hi and bass, and the second, the gain and bass. In the first mix, as early as the first transition, you can hear exactly what I mean about it sounding ‘louder’.
As for a couple of things you guys posted; I think I’m getting it right most of the time in when to bring in a track (though not so good when taking one out), and I’m practicing a hell of a lot. So what EQs should I mess with and what should I leave alone? Should I persevere with fiddling with the gain or should I just not play two tracks at the same volume?
I do have a very low-end controller – I couldn’t afford very much – so could that be it? It was recommended in a video on here though!
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