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ParticipantIs the image right?
If it is, you should go out of the XLR outputs on the sub to the XLR inputs on the tops – as your tops already have amps in then you don’t need to use the amp in the sub for them.
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ParticipantHa.. You beat me to it..
Don’t connect speakon ouputs (Amplified) into XLR’s (which are then amplified themselves – XLR’s carry mic/line level signal not amplified signal, resulting in the amp in the speaker being driven really, really hard and a complete loss in sound quality..
You could blow up the amp in the tops if you do this..
And is this what the back of the subs looks like?

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ParticipantIs this the link for the sub..?
http://www.123dj.com/speakers/hifi/xtreme18.html
Can you tell us exactly how you are wiring everything up?
Do you go:
Controller –(RCA CABLE/XLR CABLE)–> Sub –(Speakon Cable/XLR Cable)–> Tops
Or
Controller –(RCA/XLR CABLE)–> Sub –(SPLITTER/XLR OUT/XLR CABLE)–> Tops?
Please explain.. I think I am even more confused than Vintage.. 🙂
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ParticipantWell fair enough – but I suspect that you are either hearing a placebo-effect type effect on you or the difference in quality between the DAC chip in the denon and the one in your external soundcard..
And as to extra strain on your cpu? It should be neglible. I run at 24bit 96kHz no problem without even straining anything on my 4 year old windows machine.. 🙂
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ParticipantI think we did Vintage – but he has tried rolling it back and that didn’t help so I would go with Terry on it being hardware-related… Have you tried a different USB cable/different output cables..?
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ParticipantBy feedback do you mean a buzzing sound? Or do you mean actual feedback, where you have a mic that pics up the sound produced from a speaker that it is being amped through – creating a feedback loop – often resulting in a sudden high pitched screechy noise?
Did you get the same buzzing if you run the laptop without the power supply plugged into it?
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ParticipantActually it’s even higher than CD quality.. CD’s run at 16bit, 44.1kHz…
I challenge you to hear the difference over a high-quality sound system between one interface running at 24 bit 96kHz and the same interface running at 16 bit 44.1kHz..
I can hear the difference on my monitors but only if I listen for it… Any tracks you download of iTunes etc are 16 bit 44.1kHz anyway 🙂
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ParticipantAm I the only one with software which displays both..? 😉
Both are useful, counting down or just knowing the track (I can tell where I am in a track and how much more there is to go in bars without needing any display or counter just from knowing the track structure – which is almost identical for 90% of the tracks I play) is more useful than counting up. But I still use both.. 🙂
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Participantlol Vintage.. I mentioned that earlier on and he said that wasn’t the case.. 😉
I reckon that the speakers (BTW do you have a link or a model number for them – it would help us know exactly what are talking about) have a flying cable, like ones I have used do, which is then plugged into the laptop. I also reckon that they have an amp, but it’s built in and therefore (as he can’t see it), he’s assuming it doesn’t have one.. I have never heard of speakers without an amp intended for desktop use..
On a different note, also an option: http://www.amazon.co.uk/M-Audio-Studiophile-Speakers-Composing-Recording/dp/B0051WAM64
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ParticipantSO the speakers have a flying lead which you then use to plug into your laptop? And you want to plug something into that? Is this therefore what you need?
Ignore the price – they are solid. I own 4 of them… 🙂
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ParticipantI suspect that the speakers will have an amp – but it is built into them rather than being separate.
Where I think you are going wrong is where you are pluggint hings in – you say that you are plugging the headphone output of your speakers into the RCA outs on the Mixtrack?
That will never work – try plugging the output from your Mixtrack into an input on your speakers..?
Unless of course what you are calling a “Headphone Jack” is actually the input, in which case you are doing that bit right.
In serato – is it set to use the correct soundcard? (have you installed the drivers for the soundcard in the Mixtrack?) Is the master volume on your controller turned up?
Hope some of this helps,
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ParticipantThere are advantages to both Windows and Mac, and the have pretty much all been gone through on here already.. A quick search reveals the following topics – you have some reading to do.. And remember that everything on here is opinion and not necessarily right.. Though most people normally are 🙂
Some of it will be relevant, some of it won’t. Take what you want from it all 🙂
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/topic/laptop-or-macbook-for-djing/
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/topic/help-with-choosing-a-new-laptop/
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/topic/laptop-for-music-making/
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/topic/what-budget-laptops-are-out-their-for-djs/
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/topic/laptop-purchase-advice-plllease/
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/topic/choosing-a-laptop/
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/topic/laptops/Good luck 🙂
BUT – I can save you some time – the basic conclusions are as follows:
– Generally, Macs have fewer crashes, are easier to set up and have become a pretty much pernament feature as a Digital DJ for a reason..
– PC’s are generally cheaper for the same specs and will run as well as long as you spend the time doing a completely clean install of windows and install nothing that you don’t need to.
That goes for both tbh though – don’t install anything you don’t need. And if you want to use the same machine for DJing and something else, I would recommend dual-booting it so that you have one install with only your DJ software and another install with everything else.. 🙂
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ParticipantWhat you need to do is connect as follows:
Audio In -> 31 Band EQ -> Active Crossover (Stereo 2 Way, with Mono Sub out)
Active Crossover (HIGH OUT L) -> AMP 1 CHANNEL 1 -> JBL 15 (1)
Active Crossover (HIGH OUT R) -> AMP 1 CHANNEL 2 -> JBL 15 (2)
Active Crossover (SUB OUT) -> AMP 2 -> PEAVEY 18That should do the trick..
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ParticipantFirst I would get one of these: http://www.decksaver.co.uk/covers/midi-controller-covers/reloop-tm4-cover
And then I would buy a decent bag.. It will cost more but if it means you don’t wreck your controller due to damage then it’ll be worth it.. Don’t skimp.
And if you want to be really over the top, get a flightcase 😉
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ParticipantCurrently using Audio-Technica ATH-M40X headphones.. they sound awesome – but I use my beyerdynamic in ears or my Hi-Fi speakers when I am listening – the Audio Technica’s sound a bit dull due to the flatish frequency response.. I mix (as a sound engineer) on my Audio Tehnica’s as well..
Bought them when my Sennheiser 205II’s gave up when one side stopped working.. These sound much better than they did 🙂
And I have tried 201’s but found them really uncomfy (not enough padding) to wear for more than 15 mins or so..
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