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ParticipantCheers for the reply. I know I’ll need to map a controller, but is there any controller that just does effects? Something just like the 8 rotary and 8 on/off switch layout of the S4 that I could position maybe above the mixer like I am used to having with the S4?
Rick
ParticipantI upgraded to the Mk2 from the Mk1. I had a second hand Mk1 which was fine but I wanted to get the new one as soon as I saw it, however funds would not stretch. I purchased it when the £100 offer was on earlier this year and I do not regret it. The Jogs have been changed to an aluminium top which really seems to improve their performance for me (hard to put a reason on why they do, maybe the weight has an effect?), and the new improved design and RGB function makes the user experience better.
Overall I am happy with it, there were a few issues with the earlier releases (freeze issues) but the firmware update has sorted them out. Definitely an improvement on the original, but YOU have to make the decision on whether it would be worth upgrading or not.Rick
Participantgbadegesin, post: 41233, member: 1507 wrote: RB75,
Djaying encompasses, Versitality, Creativity and Enjoyment.
The enjoyment part is both for your audience and for you the DJ
Chuck has made some very clever and valid points. From your post, it seems you have started getting bored of playing the same tunes over and over again.
If your library is as vast as you say, then you have the tunes only you don’t realise itI’ll give you a tip. Try to create a random playlist of 100 songs from your library. Do this for each day of the week. Now listen to the songs. I bet you will be suprised of the hidden gems you had but never played or listened to cause they were forgotten in your library
Last week, i was 110 miles away from home when a friend called and said he was having a party and if i could play for him. I said sure, as soon as i got back, i just grabbed my gear and headed off, fortunately it was not far from my crib. I had no time to plan any playlists but i knew the crowd was one i had played for before a year ago. I played from 7pm – 1am. i know for a fact that i rarely repeated a song from the gig i played for the same crowd last year , regardless, the paty was a blast.
just imagine if you played Micheal Jacksons hits alone ( this is not an advice but just an illustration), you could swing a good hour from some of his hits.In a nut shell, mix up your regular playlist with some that you have forgotten and have a swell time
Yeh, Need to switch it up a bit more than I have been used to I think. The reason I asked the original question was ’cause I was never planning on doing 1 party never mind 4!! Ha Ha. I only ever wanted to do this as a hobby, so had no real need to think too much about playlists for such a long mix, and could get away with minimal playlist / crate as it was only for me. Looks like I’m gonna have to start digging through my tunes a little more than I’m used to. Thanks for all the replies!
Rick
ParticipantChuck van Eekelen, post: 41144, member: 2756 wrote: Hey RB,
I would only wonder about this if you plan to play exactly the same set, track for track. THAT, I would consider creative poverty. Some painters have used only a few primary colors their whole life and yet managed to make every painting different, yet distinctively “their” style.
When I was still working my 5-star hotel gigs (4 months on end, 6 nights a week, 6-8 hours – monster set???- a day) in the vinyl days, you know I wasn’t playing a new set every day.
People will know if you play A after B after C after D every night. But A after C might be totally different energetically than A before C. So, don’t worry about the amount of stuff you are gonna play. Look at a) what is my core set, the tracks that are everyone’s favorites that they expect to hear and how can I change their order creatively and b) at some new tracks (trust me, 1-2 an hour can already be plenty in that respect) that you can toss in to keep things fresh. 5 classics/favorites with one new track thrown in then another 5 classics/favorites sounds different than 10 classics/favorites in a row.
And maybe you can research a little and find 10-20 more (semi-)recent tracks that are in line with the general trend of the night. There are so many smart playlists around (in iTunes and Spotify to name two popular ones, but also on the more DJ oriented sites), that with literally 10s to 100s of thousands of tracks per genre, it can’t be too hard to find those 10-20 new and 10-20 “older” tracks.
It’ll be fun preparation just figuring out which of these new tracks in your collection go well with others (harmonic mixing and energy levels should help you a lot with that process). You’ll discover new combinations and mixes and probably can’t wait to try them out live.
Let’s say you find 15 of each. That is 30 tracks. At 1-2 bucks a track, 30-60 dollars to buy them legally and in high quality. Have your friends pay you the 30-60 bucks or part of it (even if you are gonna play for free otherwise). If you play for another 6 hour set, you now have 5! different tracks per hour. That is about 25-30%. So, with those simple 30 tunes, you have brought down your set to be only 70-75% identical, purely based on the tracks you play. Toss those 70-75% in a different order and I doubt anyone will think you are repeating yourself. It will still be a joy of recognition with a few “hey, I haven’t heard that one in a while”, “oh, I had forgotten about that one” and “nice, hadn’t heard that one yet” moments thrown in for good measure.
Don’t sweat it, you are out there doing your thing. Which makes you stand out from literally everybody else present at the party! Just realize that they need you to make the night as much as you need them. For them the alternative to a live DJ for FREE! would be to stick in a mix tape. Not half as much fun :).
Greetinx and break a leg,
C.Thanks for the reply. Really concise info and a great help!
I know that a 6 – 7 hour set is probably a normal night for lots of DJs however for me it was a little more than I was expecting! Like I said in my post I only ever do this as a hobby, for fun, not to entertain others, just myself! Having said that, every party I have done has gone down a storm, as people have told me so. I only did them as I was asked, not because I wanted to get out there and get a gig (that’s not what I personally ever wanted).
Maybe I am worrying unnecessarily as I like to practice a lot at home and try and find great ways to mix from one to the next and it may be that it is ME that is getting bored of the same tunes !!(Ha Ha!!)
The main difference between what I am used to doing (80 min CD mix) and what was expected at the party was the time on the decks. What I am trying to say is its easier to fit lots of classics when you have limited space (CD), but it becomes a lot more of a challenge when spun out over the night (6-7 hours).I’ll get on those smart playlist you talk about and also shuffle the sequence a little more (I already do this to some degree anyway as otherwise its pretty pointless DJing in my opinion) I’ll also check for more tunes in my collection I could switch in. Thanks again!
Rick
Participantbacktothefront, post: 24984, member: 1433 wrote: Interestingly I found 2.5.1 to be much better load wise than 2.5. I also noticed the difference with the S4 connected/disconnected too, with the load being worse when connected – but this is much better with 2.5.1.
Although I have now sorted my problem with high CPU usage, it still baffles me why the S4 has such a high demand for the processor!
Rick
ParticipantSteelo, post: 24816, member: 1368 wrote: I do have an S4. I have a mid 2010 15″ 2.66ghz i7 8gb ram Macbook Pro. I’m pretty sure I have my S4 latency set to about 8.7ms which is about as low as I can go for rock solid performance. I feel like its all driver related.
Well I know I have a lot lower spec than you, but after adjusting my settings I am pleased with the 10.5 latency I have, and at least the CPU is only reaching around 1/3 to 1/2.
All I can think is that the settings must have changed at some point during the upgrade to 2.5.Rick
Participantmichael133, post: 24754, member: 2166 wrote: rb75 it sounds like a latency issue with the s4 audio i managed to lower my cpu useage on my system by rasing the sample size to 192 giving an overall latency of 11.8 secs but if i had overall latency set to anything less the cpu useage was sky high.
i dont use an s4 though i have a reloop contour, also check the audio quality is set to 44100 otherwise traktor will be resampling everything into higher quality that the human ear and sound systems can handle but dont really make any difference
Good Man!! All sorted!!!
I don’t know how this had happened but my settings had changed? Maybe something to do with the new version?
Adjusted settings as;
44100hz Sample Rate
128 samples Process buffer
4 ms USB bufferGiving an output latency 10.5ms which seems fine.
Out of interest, what latency is everyone else getting with there settings?
Thanks for everyone’s input.
Rick
ParticipantSteelo, post: 24738, member: 1368 wrote: Its strange how there used to be much more consistency with performance. Now it seems all over the map. Some peoples improved with 2.5 (for me, the lowest but not as low as 2.0.3) others got worse. I’m intrigued to know why theres so much more variance these days.
Do you have an S4 also? What is your laptop spec? What I find strange is that I can run TP2 without any issues when I have the S4 disconnected.
Rick
ParticipantNewportdj Drew, post: 24735, member: 244 wrote: I have stuck with 2.0.3. Very minimal cpu usage. Works perfect. Every upgrade since has been a CPU HOG!
What spec is your laptop?
Rick
ParticipantI only have experience of Windows. A lot of headaches can come from not configuring the ASIO drivers properly (I know from experience!), this is why I originally suggested it, however I don’t know much about Macs, so realised I can’t really help there. Your probably right though, however Phils suggestion is the best – read through the manual step by step.
May 29, 2012 at 7:09 pm in reply to: Beginner: Gemini DJ CNTRL-7 vs m-audio Torq Xponent vs Mixtrack Pro #1005242Rick
ParticipantYousif, post: 21100, member: 2068 wrote: I know what you mean, but I wanna learn how to be able to mix on almost anything, that’s why I think I should learn all the basics & manual stuff before moving on to the more automated stuff. I’m talking from my experience with photography, I know the manual stuff & some advanced stuff but sometimes I don’t care about this and I set my SLR to fully auto or a scene and just press the shutter button & by knowing all that, if you give me an all manual fully pro camera I would still be able to use it & produce great images with it! You see where I’m going?
I didn’t say it was an absolute deal-breaker but it’s would’ve been great to have it there just for the sake of it being there that would make me that much more comfortable with picking or mixing with that controller over picking another controller!
I almost used the camera analogy myself!!
There are plenty of controllers out there (as you know) only some will tick all the boxes you need however. I bet you will find one that suits, use it for a while but then upgrade. This is what I did, although I already learnt on CDJs a long time before I took the leap into all digital. I’m glad I got the knowledge to know how to do everything the software now takes care of, as it can be invaluable. You are right to want to know how it all works first hand, sync can make you complacent as can anything that becomes automatic!!
Rick
ParticipantYou may still need ASIO for Mac as well.
Rick
ParticipantAre you using it on PC? if so, dowload ASIO 4 all and install it.
Rick
ParticipantCaroline, post: 21088, member: 2299 wrote: Hi,
I have just bought the Reloop Mixage IE and set up Traktor pro. I have it connected to speakers but for some reason there is no sound coming out of the headphones. In the menu it says Phono/Line – not supported. I have Sennheiser HD 202 headphones. What the hell am I doing wrong?
Pleeeease help!
Caroline
Do you have the ASIO driver installed?
May 29, 2012 at 6:08 pm in reply to: Beginner: Gemini DJ CNTRL-7 vs m-audio Torq Xponent vs Mixtrack Pro #1005231Rick
ParticipantYousif, post: 21085, member: 2068 wrote: Yep, this controller doesn’t have gain control which is a shocker. I’m new to DJing & I would like to learn to do everything manually before I start using automation ie, I want to learn how to match the gain of two tracks before start using the auto gain feature in Traktor, for example.
It is handy to learn every thing for yourself with DJing; if you were using CDjs and mixer setup it would be good to know how to connect everything together correctly, how to manually beat match, and would also be good to know how to set gain correctly aswell. However times are changing, and you no longer need CDJs and you also no longer need to know how to connect everything together with them. You also do not need to know about setting gain. Its handy to know, but not essential. I wouldn’t make it a deal breaker personally.
Beatmatching on the otherhand is a skill worth learning, just in case the synch ever lets you down. This can be achieved by switching it off, covering the BPM indicator and practice practice practice. -
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