Onelove221
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Onelove221
MemberI’m of two minds on this,
As a working DJ, I don’t have time to futz around trying to implement and troubleshoot a workng solution for a piece of $1000 hardware. I need something that just plain works and no, I’m not interested in LE or ‘lite’ versions of software. I’m a grownup. I do my research, weigh any tradeoffs or comprimises and make my decision.
Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t.
I can accept that.
The way I see it, there is a market for both proprietary controllers and a more open approach. Both have a place in the current landscape.
For gear like the S4 or NS6, both pieces would be comprimised considerably if they weren’t mapped 1:1 to a piece of highly functional software – for various reasons. Jog wheel response for one thing.
The layouts, ergonomics and functionality of those devices are designed to create the best workflow possible for a DJ using a specific piece of software. That is what makes them great products. Doing away with the tight integration of these products would make them less functional for a DJ who has to get on with the business of playing the music.
For DIYers and Hackers who prefer the flexibility of a more open-source approach, there are options out there. And of course, most new controlers can be mapped to just about any software. Just don’t expect the implementations to be as usable as those originally intended by the manufacturers.
The bottom line is this: There may come a time when companies like Rane, NI, Numark etc. offer ‘bare bones’ MIDI controllers without the price burden of proprietary software, but that day is a long, long way off.
Onelove221
MemberI’m using Adobe Audtion 3.0. It’s very straightfoward and has the tools I need to master my mixes and prepare tracks for use in Serato or a DAW.
Onelove221
Member@ Phil
Exactly.
I can imagine circumstances where Traktor’s more powerful effects and its egde in flexibility (oh how nice it would be if ITCH could do vinyl emulation!) would come in handy, but for the kind of music I play, SSL and Itch do the job just fine.
Plus I love the free upgrades for life for both SSL and ITCH.
In the end, everyone should just use what feels good. DJing at the end of the day, is a creative experience and the artist should use the tool that best allows them to bring their voice and artistic expression into the world.
Onelove221
MemberThanks Phil!
Great site. Keep up the good work.
Onelove221
MemberI just upgraded my VCI-300 with effects to a NS6 and couldn’t be happier. When I was shopping for a new controller about a month ago, I played with a few of the market players. Here’s why I made the choice I did.
S4 vs NS6
Pros – Smaller footprint, Traktor has sampler module and slightly better effects
Cons – Plasticky feel, jog wheels are in the wrong place compared to pictch controls, cramped if you have big hands, no booth out, No strip search, can’t be used as a standalone mixerPioneer DDJ T1 vs NS6
Pros – Familiar ergos if you are used to playing on CDJs, also has strip search
Cons – even bigger than the NS6, too expensive for what you get, feels plasticky, no booth outDenon MC6000 vs NS6
Pros – also built like a tank, video ready, priced right, booth out, also usable as a standalone mixer
Cons – really small and cramped feeling.The biggest plus for the NS6 for me was the scratch response, it can be used as a standalone mixer and the fact that it has a booth out, which means it’s not confined to mobile gigs like my VCI-300. I’ve used it at a major nightclub gig and it performed flawlessly.
Onelove221
MemberHere in the states, Serato got a huge headstart on Traktor during the Final Scratch debacle.
That whole clusterfrack left a whole lot of early adopters sour on Traktor and lot of potential consumers scared.
Who remembers having to dual boot your laptop into a seperate Linux Partition to use Traktor? And then the DVS implementation was buggy at best and downright non-functional at worst.
Combine that with the preponderance of hip-hop in the US and you have a pretty clear market advantage to Serato, which is much more intuitive if you are coming from the vinyl/mixer model.
Most of the clubs I play in have a Serato box permanently installed in the booth and a couple have installed Rane TT57SL mixers. The Rane mixer makes load-in and load out a 30sec affair, and when you have multiple djs, one jock can use the mixer’s built-in interface while another can use his external box. Makes switiching djs a snap.
I’m a SSL guy and all of my colleagues use it as well. I also noticed that every single dj in the last dj competition I was in was using Serato. I was suprised that not one person was using Traktor.
As for the who controller vs DVS debate, on top of my SL3 box, I have a Numark NS6 and have owned both the Vestax VCI-300 and VCI-100 in the past. Itch uses the same library, cue points, and database as Serato Scratch Live.
The things that keep me from switching back to Traktor (for now)
– Around here, Serato is the defacto industry standard, especially if you are playing non-EDM music. Most major clubs have SSL boxes installed and ALL of the DJs have them.
– Itunes integration and library managment in Serato is much more intuitive than Traktor. With Smart Crates in SSL it’s that much better. I can’t understate how important this is for DJs who may spin only 30secs of a song before moving on to the next one. This is probably less important to the EDM guys who have all the time in the world to play with effects and blends, but in the genres where quick mixing is prevalent, you really have to have intuitive, responsive library managment .
– The user experience. When I used Traktor on my VCI-100, I felt like I was spending just as much time doing ‘software management’ as I was focusing on the crowd and the music. Serato’s interface is much less cluttered and during my high intensity sets, it fades into the background and lets me focus on playing the songs. I don’t use a lot of whiz bang effects, (delay, echo, flanger and pass filters are pretty much it for me) and spend more time tweaking the EQs for crowd response that I do playing with effects. In my case Serato’s simplicity is a benefit, not a hindrance.
– SSL has built in video mixing. I am just starting to play with this and it’s awesome.
– For guys like me who play hip-hop, some house/broken beat and lot of un-quantized (read:live instrumentation) music, Traktor and it’s beat grids aren’t really any benefit.
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