NietzSKY
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ParticipantOh, wasn’t taking it like that, no sweat =D.
also, the Mikros now are only 348 I believe, the f1 last I checked was 250, so not too much of a difference of price.In summation to the OP; 1) Yes, it can function like remix decks. It cannot be used as a hardware piece to control remix decks, but sync traktor and maschine and you have much more versatile remix decks.
2) Massive / Reaktor / etc. are great for production, and the maschine is a great tool to transition into production. The maschine is the easiest way to create remixes I’ve seen to date. I use audacity, maschine, and logic for everything production related, and am using traktor / maschine for djing needs. Still working on fully integrating it into dj sets, but it definitely turns heads when in use.ParticipantTo reply to the above;
The reason I hate on f1s (having both an f1 and maschine) is that the maschine offers you so much more. I’d call traktor’s remix decks an intro to maschine sampling; with maschine, not only can you effortlessly pitch the samples you’ve taken, you can add all sorts of production elements and turn the samples you’ve just taken into something entirely new. Also, you can switch between maschine groups much faster, live record/playback the samples you’ve just triggered, and can create completely improvised parts to truly remix on the fly. The remix decks in traktor allow you to remix, but with great limitation.
Basically, the f1 offers very little the maschine does not (volume faders and filter knobs that you would be using an analogue mixer for if you used maschine). On the other hand, maschine offers all the ”remix”ing of the f1, PLUS additional groups of instruments you can use to do live improvisation (an instrument that is velocity sensitive and can pitch any sound you could possibly conceive).
If you envision ”creating recognizable loops from VERY different musical genres and mixing them in with and/or on top of electro/prog house to create interest or something that sounds incredibly different” the f1 or maschine will suffice. But, if you’d like to add your own drops/ percussion parts/ complextro-ish effects on TOP of the loops and electro house that you’ve just mixed, f1 isn’t going to help you much there. The problem isn’t laziness in creating remix decks, the problem is a limited functionality.
Participantmaschine over f1, no questions asked. As someone who has both, the remix decks are just a gimp version of maschine IMO. most DJs aren’t actually chopping samples and creating these ”on-the-fly” remixes, they are creating sample sets to have ready to play for a show.
The remix decks are a lackluster attempt to offer a rival to Serato’s bridge with Ableton. Running maschine and traktor allows you to do so much more IMO, plus maschines can be used as drum kits, whereas f1s cannot (velocity sensitive vs. non velocity sensitive)
ParticipantSuch is true, I’m just used to street fighter I suppose so the MF felt more natural XD. For remix decks, the f1 is definitely the way to go.
ParticipantAwesome show, and we were able to bring in more for the Maid this event. The project is still in infancy, but tonight, my lights + the setup chucklez brought created such a great vibe. I want to thank all the djs who came out, and we’re going to see when the next available date to have Dancekraft 3 will be.
ParticipantI own the f1 myself, and am not impressed with the remix deck option. My f1 just seems like a gimped maschine (faders are nice, but no velocity sensitive = boo) and is slightly more annoying to chop samples with. The f1 remapped fx style has potential, but personally, I’d choose a spectra over a f1 anyday.
ParticipantSpot filled, that was fast. Seems a few are actually following the thread =D. No sweat if you didn’t get it, we’ve a show coming up every month and I’m always looking for new faces to be a part. After tomorrow (hoping it’ll make successful show number 2) we’ll start to have a little credibility under our belts, and can start branching out. Ideally, I would like this event to happen weekly at different locations in the DC metro area, and would be able to book the DDJT community of DC/MD/VA a monthly spot at one of the locations.
Also, shameless self-bump; https://www.facebook.com/events/137228503123054/?fref=ts
You should totally like my mix, it’s like comment 33 or 34 in the pinned post. Looking to play out/do some networking in Baltimore, seems like a decent enough in =D
ParticipantIt’s great for saw/square synths, although for trance I’ve preferred massive. V-station is a hassle.
Hydra is also pretty sick.
ParticipantIt really helps to know what type of music you play on producing. V-station and hydra are great synths, but only excel over massive in hardcore/hardstyle IMO. Drumazon is amazing, but I love 909s. Camel phat is a good one to have in any case IMO.
ParticipantAgain, I can understand vinyl vs. controller, but the CDJ vs. controller crew are just blowing my mind.
ParticipantAlright, emergency updates; due to a family emergency, one of our DJs can’t make it out on Saturday. If you want the slot, email [email]discipleofnietzsche@gmail.com[/email] .
ParticipantKeep in touch, I should be down in Salisbury early April for a few, then hitting up DC and I’ll be down until late september
ParticipantP.S.- Skrillex would still never be booked by me, because you have to do more than pre-record your sets into ableton and make varying blender-having-a-malfunction noises. I’m not talking about wannabe-dj-producers (Mr Mau5 and Skrillex), but guys who utilize these tools to remix-on-the-fly or create 100% live performances
ParticipantSouthern Maryland…. I’ll be down in Ocean City for the summer, maybe we can make something happen =D
ParticipantAs far as the pads go, the SX felt like maschine pads to me, and for the ns7 II numark has teamed up with akai I believe. I’ve gotten used to the maschine-like pads (the maschine was the first mpc I had), but akai is also pretty renown for their mpc production. I’ve yet to jam on the ns7 II (only the origianl ns7) and I will say it is actually what made me want to learn to scratch (I spin hardcore/hardstyle/gabber at festivals/raves and electro at clubs, so I’m not really a hip-hop guy myself).
I do feel the ns7 II might be a bit excessive, but at the same time it might be all the motivation you need to start practicing scratching (feels so much nicer than non-motorized platters). I believe both controllers will perform on-par relative to sampling/looping, and touch-sensative knobs really sounds more like a selling-point than something that’s going to revolutionize the game. I’ll be picking up the ns7 II when it releases in the states for sure though.
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