LfmC

Phil Morse, post: 17870, member: 2 wrote: To LfmC – firstly, there are no sponsored reviews here, so don’t even think that please. As I said earlier, the developers will no doubt be on your side here, as with all products – they want to deliver the best they can too.

I never said that there were, nor did I think all reviews are biased. However, the very nature of reviewing a product for a review’s sake is flawed, especially when it comes to products such as this (the whole point of which is usability and stability), as most reviewers simply don’t have the time to properly test a piece of gear such as this, and rarely if ever actually use it for a long period of time or use it live. I’ve actually tried the SCS.4DJ out before purchase in a shop, and from the limited time I had with it there, it felt good and I found no problems. But after the firmware upgrade and prolonged use, not to mention after using it live in a club in front of hundreds of people, I started noticing issues with the device that were not evident before.

US$499 for a computer AND DJ controller is not ever going to be pro standard so you shouldn’t be using this gear as a pro and expecting that, especially as it is a brand new concept. Admittedly failure when DJing is a horrible thing (as is poor customer service), but all I’m saying for balance is that for many people, the SCS.4DJ has been a good product, and certainly the first firmware upgrade ironed out all but one or two issues, which let’s be optimistic and hope they can solve in the near future.

I see where you’re coming from, but I have to disagree when it comes to one thing: Stability. Sure, the SCS.4DJ is a consumer device, not a pro piece of gear. And as such, some of it’s features are gonna suffer. I never expected the quality and ruggedness of my CDJ1000mk2/DJM400 setup, and I can understand the plastic casing, the cheap-ish buttons, knobs and sliders, the limited feature set, slow processor/interface (to a point, at least), and even the mediocre converters quality… but when the stability is not there, the SCS.4DJ looses all purpose IMO. The main selling point of the device besides portability, and the main reason most people consider buying it is: Stability. We’ve all had issues with laptops, sound cards, etc., and the SCS.4DJ is marketed as a replacement for your laptop+controller as an all in one integrated STABLE DJ setup.
But ok, lets say the bugs found their way to the finished product, as it sometimes the case, my question is: Why have they not been hot-fixed immediately? It’s been literally months since all of these bugs have been reported by multiple users, and Stanton has done nothing.
So again IMO, unless stability is there, the SCS.4DJ is nothing more than a bedroom toy, as it cannot be used live. And again, I think the hardware part of the device is fine, but this is not an analog mixer; it’s software is just as important as the hardware, if not more so. And since the software has critical problems which are not being addressed, I really can’t see myself recommending the SCS.4DJ to anyone. Especially since, when you take away it’s stability, there are simply much better options out there for digital DJ’s that have a laptop/ipad, and often cheaper as well.

Darth, post: 17873, member: 1789 wrote: ………………

I have no intention to argue with you, but what I can tell you is that you’ve told me nothing I wasn’t aware of, as I’ve read all the forums/tutorials/tips/tricks as you have, followed them to the letter, and found the same “workarounds” for some of the problems. I’m also pretty good at troubleshooting, and an technology enthusiast/expert, but is that really the point? Don’t you have a need to use your payed for device “as advertised”?
So no, I’m not happy with not using the delay effect, having to buy ANOTHER external drive just for the SCS.4dj, because it doesn’t seem to “like” my 2 external 2.5″ 5400/7200 usb2.0 HDD’s, or any of my 4 USB 2.0/3.0 thumb drives, having to buy ANOTHER pair of professional headphones, because Stanton decided to boost the headphone output of the device so much as to cause distortion, which, according to them, is not there on their DJ headphones, but is clearly audible on 200$ pioneer/sony/etc. pro dj headphones……… etc.

Call me crazy, but this is the 21st century, and I expect more from professional hardware/software companies in this day and age. And thankfully, most of them deliver.

VinnyBlanc, post: 17407, member: 737 wrote: Thanks for the buyer beware. This community welcomes criticisms of all types and is not all “fluff” so you should be fine.

Sorry to hear about your negative experience with the unit, but you might just save somebody else from having a similar one.

Thanks for the reply. Looking at your sig I see you use the NS6, which is actually the device I now plan on getting, despite the much bigger price. Either that or the NI S4. Both need a laptop, which is ironically the reason I decided to go with the SCS.4DJ – thinking an all in one box would offer better stability which is essential for playing live on pro gigs…. how I was wrong.