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MemberToby_C, post: 15861, member: 1339 wrote: Your first transition seemed a little off and the ending of the Zedd remix but the rest seemed pretty good . Ho’s and Discos!(love that track) What Breaking a Sweat remix is that ? Zedd? Whats your setup ?
Yeah, that’s the Zedd remix, and I agree that one did seem a bit off, I kinda didn’t know how to mix it in at the time, lol.
Right now my setup is a Acer laptop, Traktor S4, and a Midi Fighter Pro in Instant Gratification mapping.
February 24, 2012 at 1:02 am in reply to: Do you remember the first day you had a DJ controller? #15549Kairi_Yamoto
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Got myself an S4 for my birthday (christmas eve) with my christmas bonus check from work, after doing loads of research on controllers and a personal recommendation from a buddy of mine that DJ’s (he uses DVS, but is just as much at home on controllers)
Family was visiting, so my cousin, aunt, and grandmother were there..but everything worked outta the box as soon as I got it home, spent about 2 hrs playing halo with my cousin while it analyzed my music, after that…from about 3PM til…5AM, I was up messing with songs, looping them, setting hot cues, getting familiar with it and having a blast in the process, my mother came and told me to use my damned headphones…..which I didn’t listen to, lol.
Overall, great experience, and I’m looking forward to many many more as I learn more about the S4 each day.
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MemberVinnyBlanc, post: 15231, member: 737 wrote: I think it’s a good way to practice. To hear it and see if you can replicate it…
I had that idea in mind too, so much so that I bought the tracks off beatport, and replicated the mix, without the sync button either ^_^
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MemberTodd Oddity, post: 15180, member: 1042 wrote: I’ll be blunt too. No matter how original you think you may be, there is probably somebody else in the world doing something similar. I used to have this mix I busted out at shows and it was pretty obscure – Beastie Boys and Tragically Hip (I forget the exact songs now). Then one night, I’m visiting friends on the other side of the country, and while we are at the bar I hear the dj do the exact same mix.
As Izn said, we’re playing other people’s music – which means if two tracks sound good together, you probably won’t be the only person to notice.
All of that to say, don’t download their mix and play it straight up, but if you are mixing and happen to do the same thing they did, no sweat. You still did the work yourself. And there is probably someone else out there already doing it too.
In short, go have fun and don’t worry so much! 🙂
That’s mainly what I was looking for, some sorta validation that it’s not just flat out copying.
Granted, there’s one particular set that I added to my favorites on soundcloud, but there’s a few harmonic mixes in there that just flow together so well that I thought to myself “I wouldn’t mind working those songs into a set, in that particular way”
But, like you said, since we’re more likely to play other people’s music, the ideas of stealing it just kinda go out the window, lol.
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MemberSumir, post: 14654, member: 1335 wrote: Well said my east coast brothaaa. Since yer a new yowka (lol) , ya familiar with the Storm Raves? Held back around 90-93 er so
Oh nooo, I’m 24, so I was in kindergarten back then, lulz.
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Memberatom12v, post: 14583, member: 1423 wrote: To all the “Old school” It’s 2012 people, technology era. And enough with the “you ain’t a dj if you don’t use vinyl” and “you need to respect what my generation and the one before me did” get over it. We “digital dj” do a lot more that what you guys can do with 2 pieces of static noise making vinyl. A dj is the one that’s make the crowd go the dance floor.
Disagree, whole heartedly, and I’m hoping you’re just trolling, lol.
The medium in which you use to entertain your crowd doesn’t matter, and quite frankly, all the effects and options that we have to choose from today are largely due in part to those who MANUALLY implemented it before we did. “Old school DJ’s”, as you put it, want that respect because without them, what we’ve got today wouldn’t be possible.
That’s not saying you’ve gotta throw your respective controller out the window and grab two 1200’s, but be mindful of who started it, or even if you don’t know who, know HOW it’s actually done manually.
Any one of us can drop a cue point in a song, and juggle back to it on the downbeat.
How many Digital DJ’s that take shortcuts can say that you utilize two decks with the same record, backspin, and cut across on your fader, rinse and repeat?
We’ve got our digital controllers with our crazy effects because someone had a crazy idea on vinyl, and…they actually made it work. They’ve come as far as they have because someone rocked a crowd with a dvs, with a cdj, with vinyl, and did it damn well too, but wanted improvement in what they do.
Makes me wonder what I’m gonna sound like when it gets to a point that we can DJ with pure thoughts, am I gonna be one of the ones like “kid, before we had these sensors that hooked up to your mind, I had jogwheels, cue points, and a midi controller with custom effect mappings”, lol.
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Membermr_john, post: 14595, member: 87 wrote: I don’t know if I can pin it down on one thing. I was interested in production long before DJing. I got interested in DJing as a “must know how to do to be successful as an EDM producer” thing. But the more I learned about it, the more interested I became in it. Now I tend to split my time between the 2 rather unproductively.
I have to give credit to ellaskins. Before I had my mixer, before I really knew much of anything about it I was just browsing youtube for DJ tutorials and random information. I happened across one of his videos and thought it was great. He made the topic extremely accessible. I have a somewhat musical background, I understood what beatmatching was, and knew how to count music. But I knew next to nothing about what DJing actually meant. He made it all make sense, but more importantly made it fun and interesting. I still find his videos very inspirational.
Good stuff, I have seen ellaskins on youtube, even before I had my S4, and in between him and Phil Morse with the “How To Digital DJ Fast” videos (shameless plug? lol), I’ve learned a great deal just by watching the videos.
I myself actually learn best from taking it all in, then implementing it all at once, versus watching segments and using it afterwards, so I’ve been taking my time with the videos, watching em over and over again, and then combining it all at once.
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MemberTo add on further to the fact that we are in some way, out for ourselves, I still take the fact that I am new to this at heart. Whether I’m trainwrecking a mix I’m working on, or somehow getting it right (and in a few instances using the sync button, I’m pretty anal about the BPM’s matching EXACTLY by number, lol), when it works, you FEEL it. Granted, in the comfort of your own home, you’re not gonna jump around, but when you get it right, when it works for YOU, your foot WILL tap, your head WILL nod, your eyes WILL close halfway, and you WILL get that dumb smirk on your face whilst saying in your head “f**k yeah”
When you feel it yourself, when you’re just planning it out, that passion, heart, and thought that you put into that selection that got you moving is sure to bleed over into the crowd.
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MemberSumir, post: 14556, member: 1335 wrote: I think you should understand , I started getting gigs in 1990. I first touched vinyl 2-3 years before that, and spent that time learning to mix. It’s an insult and a joke when someone has the audacity to over simplify , and take the passion out of what my generation, and those before me worked our asses off to build. There is no meaning left in ti what so ever, no message. The only concern I see from today’s wanna be DJ’s , is for themselves. We did it to bring people together (I don’t know about you, your message seems to float in some other direction..but who knows), unity and an open place to get away from our society built lives. No need to put “old school DJ’s” in all caps, and accentuate yourself there. I’ll never agree with the approach today’s generation takes. I do not see any heart or soul or depth behind it.
I don’t feel that all of today’s generation is misguided though, even though I myself am included in today’s generation, lol. In my opinion, not all of us are out to be the next big thing, make money, and all that success that may or may not come with it. We introduce our passion and heart into what we do by what we play, and how it moves US, as well as the crowd. The crowd can be going absolutely nuts for what’s playing, but if the guy is in the booth staring at his screen, not even moving to his own tunes…he’s either got the best focus in the world, or he has no passion for it.
With the increase in technology, and ease in which one can get started as a DJ, you can get lost in translation, but those that are truly passionate about their craft will pay respect to those that did it before the technology made it easy to do so, and keep that same spirit alive that a DJ brings about, which to me, is bringing about a good time. Technology can make it simpler to do what you have done in the past, but that doesn’t mean everyone new is out to take shortcuts in getting to the same result. A lot of digital dj’s (at least here, lol) want to learn how to beatmatch manually, seamlessly switch between different genres, broaden their musical palates, so that their mixes and creations better reflect them, as a person.
I’ve been doing this for roughly….a month now. Even in a year, I probably won’t be in a rush to get a gig, I want to take that much time learning how to mix, bringing my own flavor and personal style into this, using the technology available to me to the best of my ability, putting my heart and feeling into it, so that if (or when) I decide to put my knowledge to the test in front of a crowd, I’ll feel as at home as possible educating and entertaining them with what I can do, and entertaining myself in the process.
Money? I’ll keep my day job, if it ever gets to the point that this IS my day job, awesome.
Fame? Hey, we all wanna be known, leave our mark somewhere, that’s just an undeniable fact.The arguments of past vs present/future can go on for days, but whether you’re using vinyl, cd’s, dvs, or digital controllers, or two garbage cans and sticks, like you said, it’s about bringing people together, and a good time.
In a sense, I agree with you, that today’s DJ’s are out for themselves…but can’t the same be true for the past?
You’re there to make a crowd move, but if you’re not moving yourself…where’s the fun in that? The crowd can be going absolutely nuts, but if you’re just motionless in the booth…..you might as well just bring in a radio.If, however, the crowd is moving, and I take a look in the booth, and the DJ is going nuts his/herself, jumping around and acting a fool….passion, heart, all that good stuff, lol.
Just my two…five cents, and maybe it’s sorta off topic, lol, forgive me, I’m new. >.>
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MemberJust starting out, but I get the purpose. Sync can only do so much before you have to know the song structure of a particular genre to mix it with another song.
BPM’s will be lined up…but if you don’t know how to mix, you’ll be mixing two parts of songs together that just…clash, or just starting another song that’s off beat with the one coming outta the master, looking at your laptop like “wtf…sync is on”, lol.
My own friends who are DJ’s have jokingly cautioned me against using it, but the way I see it, if it allows you that much more time to make your mixes more creative/live/enjoyable…go for it.
I just don’t plan on using it as a crutch, most times when I’m practicing I have it off; I’m a firm supporter of beatmatching manually, even if I am using a controller. I toss it on every now and then to save myself some time in cueing up the next song.
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MemberAwesome stuff dude, I’m just starting out, but I dig the mix. ^_^
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MemberI’ve got a funky night time shot of my own ^_^
February 3, 2012 at 3:20 am in reply to: Do you play a musical instrument? (Recorder doesn't count…) #14041Kairi_Yamoto
MemberGuitar; when EDM isn’t in my headphones, it’s metal. ^_^
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