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  • in reply to: Shadow kicked off the tables in Miami/Advice(?) #33906
    Hee Won Jung
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    D-Jam, post: 34046, member: 3 wrote:
    I have to put my promoter hat on here. If I have a club with 10 booths and a moderate-sized dance floor, I have to think numbers. Remember all I wrote about in the guide to throwing/promoting events. You have to treat it like a business. If my 10 booths are full of high rollers who will EACH spend $4000-$12,000 in the night versus a full dance floor that might only bring a total of $6000…I’m sorry, the high rollers will win the fight every time.

    Even the barstaff will agree because those high-rollers will give them hundreds in tips compared to the dollars from the crowd. This is why you saw so many clubs shrink or remove their dance floors and put in more booths. They honestly want the best revenue stream…not to please music nerds.

    The flaw with your thinking here Djam is that 99.5% of the venues that promoters book do not get any sort of bank on the VIP Bottle Service at all or any type of % of booze sales. I could be wrong where you are from but my scene it works like this:

    Promoter Finds the Headliner, Finds the Venue, Signs the Headliner Contract after finding a venue…once Headliner Contract is signed, then Venue Contract is signed. Deposit on the venue is first to be paid, followed by deposit for Headliner. Promoter is responsible for ticket sales and prices accordingly. IF VIP Bottle Service is possible in set venue..PROMOTER sets Bottle Service package price IE 120 per person with a min of 4 people per table.

    Now If/When the Headliner shows up he gets paid right away (usually 50%) as deposit has already been paid. NO matter what the Artist is paid in full. Now if for any reason he doesnt get to perform they still get paid regardless as they have done their due dilligence (made sure to be at the event, brought everything they need to perform (usb sticks/CDs) If the guy gets kicked off the decks he still makes his money regardless.

    The only people that are really affected are the fans. If the night is being promoted for a specific DJ then the Venue, Promoter, and Fans should all be very much aware of what the Headliner is going to perform. There are very rare cases where i have had the Headliner come up and ask “what do you guys want me to play tonight?”

    I do however agree with you overall…The Top40/Mainstream crowds do generate more revenue because it hits a larger group of people…as well these people tend to drink…oppose to the underground crowd which are usually high off of Ketamine and MDMA.

    in reply to: Discussing the Amen Break at a Gig #33905
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    Amen Break + High On Meth = How Drum n Bass was Born 😀

    in reply to: Mixing Tech House #33901
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    Breakdowns yes…but not beatless breakdowns like u hear in progressive or Electro.

    in reply to: Shadow kicked off the tables in Miami/Advice(?) #33899
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    +1 to D-Jam.

    I went to this “top40s” club on the weekend for my Girlfriends birthday…and my god it was just brutal. Yes everyone there was dressed nice, the venue was really nice…and the people there were well ya know the typical puffed up chests, girls too snobby for their own good, and bouncers that looked like they just finished their last roid injection 4 minutes before they showed up.

    Now as for the DJ…I cant even call him that…this guy was freakin brutal so brutal…Lets start down the list:

    First off he was wearing Beats -1
    He tried to mix…but i dont think he has ever used an EQ before… -1
    Bouncing from Rap to American House, to Rap…like every 2nd track -1
    30 Second cuts of songs so there was ZERO flow -1

    Now It just pains me to watch guys like this spin for an entire night…Im assuming he hardly makes any cash because i have never heard of this guy or even seen him play at any other venue.

    But this is where we have the division between Top40 and Underground, as D-jam stated 😀

    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    No need for one with a fan…with a fan causes more problems like…needing another usb port or another power plug…both of which are usually in short supply in a DJ booth.

    in reply to: Mixing Tech House #33822
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    Yeah i was just seeing exactly what you are talking about…and i think we are using different terminolgy here.
    Beatless breakdowns i refer to as something that has ZERO time signature…anything that has a time signature to it has a beat.

    So if i were to bring in any type of drums or what not into it then it would not clash.

    TBH the mix was well done and technically it was very well put together…but there wasnt really much going on it with…it was simple and just song after song…Good song selection…but this type of mixing wouldnt work on a Dance floor as there is zero energy level…this is all just personal preference. IMO you need to create dynamics and energy…Tension and Release to move a crowd. You have a full 5 minutes roughly per song…thats like the entire body of a song…1 minute intro 5 minute song 1 minute outtro…7 minutes and thats the typical Techno/TechHouse pattern…so in essence all that is happening is you putting on a playlist of 13 songs in 1 hour…Tech House allows you to do SOOOOO much more and i think u need to take advantage of that.

    just my 2 cents.

    in reply to: Mixing Tech House #33818
    Hee Won Jung
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    Yes House music does…but thats why its called Tech-House…Techno House…and the majority of Techno is not about buildups or breakdowns and about that steady rhythm.

    Intro and Outtro yes…but not all EDM has a climax…like Techno lol

    in reply to: Software for genre info #33815
    Hee Won Jung
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    Yeah i do the exact same as Kent cept i use the Grouping field and add things like Banging, Peak Hours, Techy, Swing, Funky, Shuffle. anything to narrow my parameters of music for creating a playlist.

    in reply to: Using effects #33814
    Hee Won Jung
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    Download a copy of Traktor Pro 30 day trial and use the effects on there to see how they sound.

    Track Selection > Mixing/Eqing > Effects. But honestly…it just takes practice practice practice.

    If you are having money problems i suggest saving up 100 bucks and getting a mix track and playing on ur laptop with Traktor to get a feeling of how they sound and when to use them.

    in reply to: Mixing Tech House #33813
    Hee Won Jung
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    But Tech-house doesnt usually have any build ups or peaks…they have breakdowns and then just go back to what was before the breakdown…Thats why they call it Tech House….You refer to beatless breakdowns but tech house doesnt have beatless breakdowns…there is always a kick, snare or hi hat that keeps a steady beat going.

    You idea of Mixing tech-house is exactly what D-Jam was refering to when he is speaking about long boring bland mixes.

    Sorry just read that and it sounded kinda harsh…not my intention.

    in reply to: Mixing Tech House #33798
    Hee Won Jung
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    gilman, post: 33945, member: 510 wrote: What about going from A to B. Which effects can I use for transitioning from A to B. I like Sebastien Leger but I find it harder to layer or transition between his tracks, since his music is more funky/complex (with more sound spectrum than many other tech house tracks).

    Tech House is a very Minimal Style so you dont really want to use effects too much because most effects color the sound too much for such minimal music. However some effects that work well are the Echos and Delays, maybe a gate, but stay away from Flangers and Phasers as they create too much color.

    As for mixing…dont think of it in a traditional sense…I will often let my entire track play out and not even cut out my 2nd track…i find that this adds a lot more depth.

    Im gonna try my best to describe it here.

    Start playing Track A, Cue up track B…lets say 1 minute in bring in Track B…you now have Track A and B going together, with EQing you can make either Track A or B more enunciated. Then Bring in Track C…As track A is on the outtro bring in Track D…when you want to reset your vibe Kill all your Tracks except 1 and build it back up again.
    A lot of this has to do with proper EQing and just knowing your music. I know my explanation isnt the greatest but i really cant think of another way to describe it lol.

    The Biggest thing to remember about this genre is that it has Techno Roots…and that means that its a steady beat…disrupting the beat can really affect your floor for these sets…so add subtract and blend but never ever loose your steady beat.

    One way that i will usually blend my tracks is first line up my beats and phrasing…then i will put all my EQs @ 9oclock and bring in my 2nd track…At the right moment i will either snap up to 12 and switch the other track to 9 or i will do a slow rise of the 2nd track to 12 and then cut down to 9 on the other track at the right moment(usually at the end of a 32beat phrase)

    There is no wrong or right way…just what sounds good and what doesnt 😀

    in reply to: Mixing Tech House #33787
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    Yeah I find its very selective as to which crowds will go off on that type of music. I find adding in some vocal samples as well as keeping your highs and mids changing from bouncing from 1 of the 3 tracks i have running keep things different and interesting for the crowds i play for. If i were to let 1 gabriel rocha song go…which is like 7-8 minutes my crowd would fall asleep. So if i wanna cater to my musical tastes as well as theirs…i have to add in some other shit to keep them interested lol.

    in reply to: Mixing Tech House #33785
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    Layer that stuff. Progressive and Electro are more of a A to B as there is a lot of the sound spectrum used within a single track.

    With Tech House/Deep/Soul/House, layer that shit…get track A going add in B add in C…sample…a bit from Deck D..

    I really enjoy mixing what i will call “Euro” House…thats the real stuff…Stefano Noferini, Grabriel Rocha, Manuel De La Mere, all amazing tech house…but it can sound boring and dull to a crowd as the beat is so simple…just gotta add in more from other tracks….Mixing in Key helps a ton

    in reply to: VCI 400 EGE Experiences #33651
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    @ DJ RM I agree with you that the product is “fully mappable” But when a company emphasises their product for the amazing mapping they provide and use it as a major selling point, the majority assume that the mappings will be continually supported through new updates.

    Its like if i were to sell you a keyboard thats fully programable…but will only work for windows 7 service pack 1…but if windows releases service pack 2(which they never will just hypothetical) the keyboard will have to be completely programmed from scratch…Yet they dont tell you that it wont work…just that it works really really good right now.

    See how this can be construed as bad business practice?

    in reply to: Help Selecting DJ Controller #33648
    Hee Won Jung
    Participant

    All depends on DJ Software:
    VDJ Mixtrack or MC3000
    Traktor – S2

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