Hee Won Jung
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April 10, 2012 at 4:18 pm in reply to: Mixing with Traktor 2, X1 controller and a club mixer…? #18294
Hee Won Jung
ParticipantAnother way that is more accepted as a form of DJing (not saying that what u stated above is not DJing but is frowned upon a lot because of the fact you are using sync) is the exact same setup but using timecode to control Vinyl or CDJs and using the X1 more for effects and samples…(Timecode for CDs Sucks on Traktor so it would be Vinyl)
April 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm in reply to: Is practicing your sets a lot like going to the driving range? #18291Hee Won Jung
Participantsynthet1c, post: 18288, member: 1107 wrote: I think practicing every set before you play it live just sets you up for failure… If we stick with the golf analogy, it’s like planning out the exact position you want to hit the ball… you could be tiger woods and actually do it, but most of the time you will probably miss, and you are not factoring in other variables that could affect your game on the day… maybe it’s windy and want’s to blow you off coarse (the crowd doesn’t like your pre prepared setlist), maybe your on after a player dominates then gives you the finger (some little showboat plays a peak set early in the night and dowsn’t respect you enough to close properly), or raining (no one is dancing yet), your caddy is a no show (cant press sync), or you break you clubs in a freak buggy crash (equiptment fails).
You are better off practicing the different techniques you use in all different conditions, and be ready for anything (know your tunes and play what comes to mind in the moment) there is less pressure and much more reward.
But it is always good to watch yourself on tv after practicing so you get another perspective to improve your game and get feedback from others (record your mixes).
I would have to disagree with this. Know your songs and knowing where you want to make your transititions is an integral aspect of what you are doing. I think the way you used the golf Analogy is a bit flawed. Yes there are a million different conditions that may affect your game…but do you really go into a PGA tour not knowing which course you are on? Do you really not spend the time as a pro golfer to see the layout of each hole. Do you not already have it in the back of your head that you are going to start with your driver…then use your 5 iron or whatever. Yes as a DJ you should be prepared and ready to go based on the set you have. But the sign of a GREAT DJ just like a pro golfer is being able to adapt to your surroundings/weather conditions.
I think walking into a gig not having any kind of preperation/practice on your set and not having an idea of what you are going to do and just playing straight off the cuff sets you up for a BIGGER chance of failure than being totally ready and then deciding to go a different route.
It also depends on the medium you are using…If you use CDJs you need to know around what time to transition into each song, and when to start playing the other song…how many beats until i want to make my transition and working with the EQs. Personally Myself I think it would be a nightmare to have a PACKED dancefloor rocking songs that i dont know 100%.If you are using SYNC…you should probably stay in the bedroom as a DJ
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ParticipantYou can pickup the Mixtrack not pro edition for cheaper but then you will need to spend additional money on a 2ch DJ soundcard. This is a viable option if you do not have all the cash up front at the moment. I believe the mixtrack goes for around 150 bucks…and with the release of the new Traktor packages you will be able to pick up a Traktor Audio 2 for around 119 and that will come with a full version of Traktor pro 2 software.
The only problem this creates is that you will now be using 2 USB ports on your laptop. 1 for the Mixtrack and another one for the Traktor Audio 2.
IMO with the new way Traktor is doing its thing is better to buy the Mixtrack not the PRO and a Traktor Audio 2 card and you get a full version of Traktor which is around 90 bucks with the new pricing if i am correct.
So really Mixtrack pro- around 300 + 90 for Traktor
OR
Mixtrack – 150
Traktor audio 2 -119Still cheaper than buying the Mixtrack pro.
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ParticipantThere is good music in ALL genres…By saying this genre sucks or doesnt have soul and yadda yadda yadda imo shows ignorance. Yes its true that most of the EDM out there is garbage…and yes its really hard to find that one AMAZING song…but they do exist. Its just not as easy to find it these days because the industry has been completely flooded with Producers. Back in the day there were only a handful of producers making EDM music, as well the cost to make EDM was 10X more expensive than it is by todays standards. Thus only the high end producers were able to make chart toppers.
There are just as many good producers today as there was 10 years ago…the only difference now is that theres a million crappy producers.
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Participanthahha I think this song fits this thread quite nicely
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ParticipantYou can get 1/4 to XLR adapters as well as RCA to XLR adapters…but i would reccommend to stick with 1/4″ if possible, especially if the distance from your rig to the Amp is over 10′ as RCA signals degrade directly in order with the length of the cable…longer the cable the more it degrades
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ParticipantWell first off that song in the OP isnt even Electro…its Progressive. MOST i say most because there are exceptions to the rule MOST progressive is pretty cheeseball sounding. Most progressive imo is very commercial…and has that “Anthem” sound that you speak of.
I dont like 99.5% of commercial music out there…weather it be mainstream or just commercial EDM…and yes there is a difference.
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ParticipantThere are a multitude of adapters for your plugins so i wouldnt worry about the connection end of this…I personally use 1/4″ to XLR for my mains and the sound quality is VERY good.
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ParticipantI suggest the VCI 400 with the DJ Tech Tools mapping and Firmware or the S4. MC6000 is good…but its really cramped but with the release of the VCI-400 it doesnt compare imo. The S4 is GREAT for the tight integration with Traktor, but the VCI-400 mapping and new firmware i feel is the BEST controller out on the market right now
March 12, 2012 at 3:16 pm in reply to: best dj software 202, traktor vs vdj vs serato vs ___? #16605Hee Won Jung
ParticipantMapping in Traktor is really a pain in the ass…i have gotten the basics down but you really need to buy the Traktor bible to find out all the ins and outs.
For the controllers you are already using hit up http://www.traktorbible.com for a lot of user mappings that are very good.
As well http://www.djtechtools.com has a lot of user mappings that are also very good.
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ParticipantDayvue, post: 16660, member: 837 wrote: What is a double drop?
I assuming the double drop that he is refering to is when you have 2 builds in phrase and both go into a Drop at the same time.
Usually when i do this its a harmonic mix but you really have to play with your levels…as the hook builds i tend to slowly cut out the highs and mids of the first song and usually 16 beats before the drop ill increase my eq of the 2nd song.
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ParticipantIf you ever want to play out in gigs and what not…stick with Traktor.
Torq is good…but is a commercial software not professional
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ParticipantI do this quite often in my mixes. But i dont do the 8 count before the mix in point as im using Traktor and just turn on quantize to ensure that my mix in cue point drops in at the right point. I can see using Serato since it doesnt have quantize you have to keep ahead of it so u can ensure that the mix in point is right on beat.
Personally I have a bit of ADD when i do my mixes and rather than jump from song to song every minute, I like to do a lot of mashups with Electro house.
This is a great technique for keeping mixes interesting and different from the average go from one song to the next.
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ParticipantB.B. Koning, post: 16261, member: 1638 wrote:
I am by no means a gear head, but I do know that the main club that I frequent uses Pioneer CDJ 1000 models.
However, from asking the non CDJ using DJS that play out there, they say they just plug in their laptops to the mixer via their sound card and have a go.I have to learn to crawl before I can walk.
Yes they are plugging their laptops in using a proper DJing soundcard…then they are either using timecode with the existing CDJs and mixer or using a controller.
As for the crawl before walk…think of it this way…learning on a laptop would be like learning to crawl on ur back blindfolded with 1 arm and 1 leg…if you are going to learn to crawl..learn to crawl the right way.
as for the 300 bucks…that would be your barebones BASIC setup…My Gigging setup not including laptop costed me over 2000 bucks lol…and in the DJing world…thats retarded cheap for professional quality gear.
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ParticipantBigChipsHI, post: 16282, member: 853 wrote: thx HWJ. thats perspective enough for me to at least try to make the switch. learning the effects on vdj has been quite the hassle.
but then again having experience with multiple softwares cant be a bad thing either.
You are totally right my friend. I started off learning on VDJ, and although it was okay…i thought hey this is pretty cool since i can mix music n stuff…then i was introduced to Traktor and i havent looked back since. Most of the guys in my Crew all use a DVS setup on Serato…so i have had to learn how to use it when i cannot have my own setup in place as well. Learning on all mediums, different software, cdjs, vinyl…its all going to help you in the long run.
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