Hee Won Jung

Okay todd you win…happy? jeeeebus….

yawn this is boring me now…can we get back on topic?

at the end of the Day…having Standalone Mixer Capability is a luxury and not a necessity…If the controller has EVERYthing you want except that…dont like the standalone function be a deciding factor…Integration and actually usability is more of a factor than something that can be a safety net. If a CDJ goes down during your set u are just as screwed

Hee Won Jung, post: 18773, member: 948 wrote: Unless you are a solo act doing weddings or stuff like that then yeah i can see the standalone functionality of it…but only to a certian degree….so now if you are by ur lonesome without a pre-existing mixer…you will need to drag ur controller(thats a standalone mixer) laptop and 2 cdjs….see how this kinda defeats the point?

A Good DJ in any scenario tests all his equipment and makes sure its ready before any gig.

I have done numerous gigs and shows and NEVER had my laptop crash, not once…not even a hiccup…but mind you i make sure everything is working perfectly before every show and my laptop is ONLY meant for DJing…i dont even have it connected to the internet EVER…i download music and do all that off my other computer and just transfer over.

Todd Oddity, post: 18800, member: 1042 wrote: Umm, okay, then don’t be a dick and assume I didn’t read your entire post. In fact, I read both your posts, I just quoted the portion that was relevant to my reply.

You’ve made assumptions based on what you’ve seen in dj booths. I gave you an example of what else people can run into in dj booths. As to how a CDJ or turntablist would work at that particular venue I used as an example, they would bring what they wanted to use, just as I bring what I want to use. “Blank slate” booths are pretty common around here (or the house gear is such garbage nobody uses it) and it has probably helped the cause of controllerism as most of us prefer to carry a controller than hauling all the gear we used to.

If you are any kind of professional DJ you scope out the venue and ask what they have their before u even show up

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I wasnt even responding to you in my intital reply…i was replying to Joon…and then u replied to me…so i kept replying based on the intial post by Joon….

I never mention you at all in any of my posts…

Joon, post: 18755, member: 1605 wrote: The S4 does not work without a laptop. That’s what I like so much about the “standalone mixer function”. You can easily just use it as a hybrid set up with 2x CDJs and 2x Midi Channel and you are prepared for a laptop crash. Sure, you may not need that, but if you do, it’s there.

ummm…not to be a dick…but read the entire post before u quote a portion of it lol…

What i am trying to say is that a controller with stand alone mixing capability seems a bit redundant…because why now would you want to haul around a laptop 2 cdjs AND a huge controller that works as a mixer if you think your laptop is going to fail…CDJs and a Mixer seem like a hell of a lot less stuff and space to carry everything around.

As a Mobile DJ you want the smallest solution…not carry around more shit than a standard CDJ/Mixer setup.

You play in a club where the mixer isnt in the DJ booth? How the F do CDJ/Turntable DJs mix there? That makes little to NO sense whatsoever.

It almost seems a cheaper lighter more portable solution to just get another laptop….

I can understand that point…but now a days…where do you use an S4 that doesnt already have an existing mixer? Unless you are a solo act doing weddings or stuff like that then yeah i can see the standalone functionality of it…but only to a certian degree….so now if you are by ur lonesome without a pre-existing mixer…you will need to drag ur controller(thats a standalone mixer) laptop and 2 cdjs….see how this kinda defeats the point?

A Good DJ in any scenario tests all his equipment and makes sure its ready before any gig.

I have done numerous gigs and shows and NEVER had my laptop crash, not once…not even a hiccup…but mind you i make sure everything is working perfectly before every show and my laptop is ONLY meant for DJing…i dont even have it connected to the internet EVER…i download music and do all that off my other computer and just transfer over.

I think there are basic rules on mixing…like mix at the beginning of a 32 and make sure things dont clash…like vocals on vocals…or same sounding synths…and if you are mixing at synths/vocals…you need to make sure they are in harmony…these are basic rules for mixing, that has to be followed pretty much by every DJ…how you eq…and what you want it to sound like is very specific to each DJ.

As well speaking from an EDM perspective…each genre has different styles of mixing…Progressive and Trance i find are very similar…where its more about cutting out your highs and mids and blending…where as Electro/Bass Music is more mids and well BASS…I find with prog/trance…the basslines are very similar from song to song…with variations here and there but the highs and mids are very different so you have to blend/swap them more.

There are special cases…and my buddy who is a GREAT drumstep DJ likes to tweak his highs and mids more than the bassline.

Again this is very dependant on the DJ.

The easy part is finding out where to mix in/out…the hard part is effective EQing…again this is all just my opinion