Hee Won Jung
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Hee Won Jung
ParticipantKnow the place you are playing at…Go there on the night that you are suppose to play…see what the crowd is like and what the vibe is like…Nothing worse than going to a place wanting to play Banging Electro and its a Hip Hop night LOL.
Also make sure u know what equipment they have and what you need to bring with you…and have spares of whatever it is you need…extra cords etc. As well Take a CD with some music or a USB stick just in case things go south and you need to reboot your computer or whatever.
The biggest lesson though is…HAVE FUN! oh and dont play music out of time slot…like Crazy Banging PSY Trance at 9pm…
Participanti would wait till you have around 2500 so u can get a decent useable setup…until then just rent…renting is pretty damn cheap these days.
To give u an idea these are the 2 systems that we have:
System 1
2 15″ Peavey Euro 115 – 649 Each
2 2×18″ PeaveyQW218 – – 800 Each1 Crossover, 1 Monitor Amp 2 Bassbin Amps – Approx 1500
Total Cost – 4.3k
System 2
2 15″ Mackie SRM450 v2 – 550 Each
2 18″ Yamaha DSR118 – 1,000 Each SubTotal – 3k
Now System 2 is probably your ideal setup and is easiest to use. But this gives you an idea of exactly how much it costs for a pretty decent system.
ParticipantHuge CPU hog? 2.5.1 was actually way better on resources than 2.0.3…
ParticipantWill, post: 30993, member: 46 wrote:
I know some DJ’s look down on it, but I play a majority of my breaks, and I just don’t give a ^%U* what most people think. I don’t think it’s boring to have a 5-6 minute song play out, or parts where there are just synths or just a solo piano and no beat. I think the BEST parts of some songs are the breakdowns, when the producers hit those right chords that bring you to tears, or just make you feel elated or excited. This was why I got into DJing, so I could share this feeling. Am I going to cut out some of the most beautiful parts of a song, because it’s not standard practice?Nope.
The problem you have with this is that most Punters dont know what to do during a breakdown…and you usually end up clearing the dance floor. Now if this is intentional like every 20 mins or 1/2 hour to get everyone to the bar to get a drink…then imo its totally acceptable…but dont forget the REAL reason why you are here to DJ. If 5 people in the whole venue think the breakdown is freakin unreal…but the rest of the people are there going…uhhh wheres the bass wheres the beat…then you are failing at your job. This also really has everything to do with the type of venue you are playing in. At Clubs and regular nights i make it a rule to never let breakdowns happen unless its an iconic breakdown or something that everyone recognizes…At Festivals and Huge events…its totally different as the Vibe and energy is a lot more emotional and those long breakdowns and synth lines will really make an impact.
ParticipantBalanced XLR and TRS inputs and outputs on pro-audio equipment are ALWAYS mono. The signal is ALWAYS mono. If you want stereo, you need to use a pair of them.
The reason people get confused is that stereo headphones use a 1/4 inch TRS connector and that is stereo but they ONLY plug into a stereo headphone jack.The Box above should work just fine…as there are 2 inputs for the RCA left and right channel, and will output to the apopriate XLR cable.
What you are thinking of is an RCA to Unbalanced XLR…where both the right and left cable go and only 1 XLR comes out
ParticipantMackie Monitors are freakin Kick ASS…IMO they are the best bang for the buck. The Subs on the other hand are pretty bad imo.
I make it a point to never buy anything for Behringer.
ParticipantYou will want to use something like this:
http://www.rane.com/bb44x.html
I believe Jensens make something similar to this that will probably be cheaper.
ParticipantA good way to avoid this i find is to use cue points…I have probably spent over a weeks worth of time on setting cue points on my tracks.
This is how i set mine up using Traktor: Intro, First Break down, First Drop, 2nd Break down, 2nd Drop, Beginning of Outtro
and that leaves me with 2 cue points that i can add randomly if there are certian parts of the song that i really like.
Now having those cue points really lets me bring a song in and out when ever i want, always creating something different.Mixing different non-standard formats of music will get you out of the intro chorus drop mix routine.
Stuff like Tech, Deep, Minimal and Progressive I usually mix the entire track but bring other tracks in and eq out parts of the old track.ParticipantLOL that VDJ video i laughed sooo hard at.
No Offense to any VDJ users..but that video does have merit…not in the VDJ sense but the newbie DJ sense.
I had a guy that i booked the other month…and i told him hey its a Electro/Jackin House type of night and he was playing the most annoying Brostep with the mixer in the red…at 10:30pm…people were actually leaving and i had to tell him that he was done. Thank god i always bring my gear with me and ended playing till the next DJ was on.
ParticipantRCA to XLR i would only use in a no other option scenario…and if you have to keep the cord the shortest possible distance.
RCA will degrade after 4ft(RCA to RCA) but from my limited usage i have gone up to 10ft without any real noticable sound difference.
Dont cheap out on cables, and always ALWAYS have backups.
ParticipantBigSyd, post: 30927, member: 3965 wrote: I think I’m using the LITE version of your Option 2 because I don’t use minitors in between. I go straight from the controller to the 15″ Powered Speaker. In the Restaurant/Bar I currently play, I really on need one 15″ Powered speaker for the room. However, I’m thinking about adding a second just to have a Left and a Right.
I call anything that is not a Bassbin a Monitor…so in essence you are doing exactly option #2 without a bassbin 😀
Its always a good thing to have both left and right speakers as a lot of songs have panning and you can only hear coming out of 1 side of the pan, unless you are in mono and you would hear the panning effect at all.
ParticipantFor any type of IDM or EDM or Dance Music in general I would go so far as to say you NEEEED bassbins.
Okay that might be a bit dramatic…but really yes you need bassbins.There are lots of different theories that people put together regarding the amount of wattage and loudness needed but here are a couple of tips that i have used:
Size of room (capacity) x 25 watts so if u have a room that holds 100 people you will want at least 2500 watts of sound…that is bare minimum, You never want to go with just the min as you will be putting all your speakers at maximum strain for an extended period of time. This is also dependant on the type of show…if you are doing it in a wide open room space that is designed for a club…or is it a big empty room that is in a basement.
I can reccomend some good brands but that will do little to no good as it will probably cost you a big chunk of change.
Let me know your budget and i can out some makes and models together. The money you spend is the quality you get…This is especially true when it comes to Speakers…and its not just about the sound quality…its how long they last…how durable they are etc.
Oh I Forgot to add that you want a 1:1 factor Speakers/Monitors to Subs
Participantdont bother spending any money on speakers until you can afford to get some decent sized ones…For personal use use some good computer speakers with a sub…then when you can afford it pick up some cheap Monitors like the Rokits which are good for DJing with
ParticipantFor what you want…I would suggest nothing less than 2 15″ Monitors and 2 18″ Bassbins You could throw a good 100-150 people party with that setup.
ParticipantWell there are 2 options you have when you are going to build your first PA. Since you already stated that this wont be for a live band and is soley for DJing purposes..you are correct and you will not need a full mixer with lots of inputs or anything like that.
Option 1 – Amps with a Crossover and passive Speakers
Option 2 – Just Powered Speakers.Now ill discuss these further.
Option 1 is where you will have a Crossover which is what you will be plugging your controller into. Typically these are XLR. Since you are using a Kontrol S2 you will need to buy TRS to XLR cables…they are pretty cheap and you should never gig without them from personal experience. What the Crossover does is splits the signal for your highs and lows.
You will probably want 2 amps…or maybe even 3 amps which is what i use. The outs from the crossover which will be in XLR will connect to your Highs/Mid amp and another set will connect to your Bassbin Amp(s). I have 1 amp for my Monitors and 1 amp for each of my 20″ Double Bassbins (2 Bassbins with 2 subs in each)
You then connect Passive speakers to your amps and you are ready to go.Option 2 is a little easier and more user friendly for people who do not really know how to set things up…I personally prefer using a Powered system which my company has as well. The Way a powered system works is like this:
Same TRS to XLR cables except 1 of the XLRs goes into 1 powered Monitor…the other XLR into the other one. Now most if not all Powered speakers have in and through plugs. The Cables from the S2 go directly into the Input, then you just grab another XLR to XLR cable and daisy chain it to the next speaker, and so forth.So it goes S2>Monitor>Sub once for left and once for right channel.
I LOVE my passive system…but not because its passive…but because it really freakin thumps and you can really feel the bass. Had i had the exact same system in a powered version i would probably take it.
Now If i owned my own club or a full venue…i would take Option 1.
Here is my justification. Option 1 you can tweak a lot more of your sound…and in the long run is better overall if you are in a stationary setup…your own venue bar etc. Plus overall its cheaper…this is yet to be proven…i have heard.
Option 2 is GREAT for parties where you are going to have to setup and tear down, as well with Powered speakers you have more room if something goes wrong. Lets say you go and set up a huge party…and all of a sudden your Amp or crossover blows…you are totally screwed for your party using Option 1. With Option 2 that cannot happen as each speaker has a built in amp. If something goes wrong with 1 of your powered speakers..you can still passibly do your show with 1 less speaker.
Sorry for the long winded post but hopefully that gives u an idea on what you are looking for….oh and 1 last thing…Amps suck ballz they are soo heavy.
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