Hee Won Jung
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Hee Won Jung
ParticipantI think its like 25-30ft…but i could be wrong
ParticipantDJimC, post: 31197, member: 2657 wrote: One simple example would be my Mixtrack Pro which doesn’t come with a ‘gain’ knob. I was very happy that I was able to map another button to that function. Now that I’ve bought a Vestax 400 I’m also very happy with the ability to map all these unmarked buttons to my liking instead of just using the standard mappings. Now I realise that both traktor and VDJ support quite advanced mappings, although I do believe that traktor is slightly more limited.
I would have to lump the MTP as consumer hardware…the same as i would lump CDJ 350, DJM 400, Anything by Stanton and Behringer, 1/2 the Numark line of products, the Pioneer Controllers (cept the DDJ-SX) as CONSUMER products, not meant for someone who is a professional at their job. They are great for beginners and hobbiests but not for people that gig on a regular basis. Ease of use, reliability and features are the major factors that make the difference between Consumer and Professional use.
ParticipantDJimC, post: 31197, member: 2657 wrote:
In the end I’m convinced that a skilled mapper/skinner could make VDJ behave exactly the same way as any standard traktor configuration. However to get the most out of VDJ, you have to be confortable with doing some mapping yourself to make it suit your particular needs.Yes probably a really skilled mapper/skinner could make VDJ behave the same as traktor…but then why not just use Traktor?
The other thing here is industry standards…Lets say even though the likely hood of this happeneing is slim to none.
2 Traktor users are playing 1 after the other…the gear is 1 Traktor S4 and a laptop. They are both able to play their sets knowing the software and Kontroller. They bring a USB stick and plug in analyze and off they go.
2 VDJ users are playing 1 after the other…the gear is 1 Controller X and a laptop. They both have created totally customized mappings and their work flows are completely different because the basic package that VDJ provides is inadequate for anyone to just pick up and start playing as well they both like to use different VSTS because the standard Effects are garbage. They now have to bring all their own gear and setup.
I myself can play on Serato, CDJs, Traktor and DVS. I can go and play a gig anywhere, using anything from a USB stick to a DVS setup, to a Controller.
As a DJ we should be able to play out on any medium…now having a custom made VDJ mapping and Skin that only you have…well you are just really limiting your gigs.
Now thats not to say that i dont have custom mappings, i use additional Midi Controllers apart of my gig…but my controller is a standard mapping because everything on it is damn near perfect.
ParticipantMarcelo Neri, post: 31170, member: 4405 wrote: Each software has advantages that others dont. One of the reasons I prefer VDJ, is that both deck wave forms are overlapping. I think this topic is very interesting ’cause maybe you guys help me to do in Traktor an advanced mixing technic I use with VDJ.
Lets say that its already a song playing to the audience. With the headphone I identify both 1st beats and sync them. Then, I beatjump the 2nd song to “pull” it’s CUE point exactly where I want it to be. Then it’s a matter of crossfading.
I can do this easily with VDJ (just because it’s overlapping rhythm window). How would you guys do that with Traktor?If we talk about mixing technics on this post, we will change completely it’s subject. So I ask you guys to answear me by PM instead.
Thanks 🙂Traktor has a quantize feature…where it doesnt matter where in the track you goto it will always be right on beat. even without using the Sync button. So lets say you had track 1 playing…and u need to bring in Track 2…you start up track 2 line up your phase grid, and now both songs are beatmatch, but not phrase matched…as soon as song 1 hits the beginning of a 32 beat phrase, you hit your cue point on track 2 thats at the 1st beat of a 32 beat phrase and you are totally matched up with beat and in phrase
ParticipantYeah overall I would have to agree that it is based on user preference…but there are a few things that need to be pointed out that are the main differences between Traktor and VDJ. Some of these points have already been made so sorry for any duplication. Terry Please correct me if i have made any mistakes regarding VDJ as i havent used it in over 2 years.
Layering tracks, sampling, and controllerism is pretty much made for traktor. It doesnt have overlapping or paralleled wave forms but it doesnt need it with the Phase Grid. I have no problems mixing up to 4 tracks in Traktor at once. Doing this on VDJ is a big PITA, and i really dont like it at all tbh. VDJ says it can use up to 99 decks…who gives a crap…I hardly know any DJs that even mix with 3 decks.
Traktor also has 1:1 controllers that are specifically made for Traktor Software S2/S4 and these integrate way better than any custom controller with a mapping.
Effects, which is a huge part of EDM Djing…well honestly the standard VDJ effects are so bad that i wouldnt even go near them…I have heard some of the user made effects are pretty good.
Honestly I am really against software which allows you to totally customize everything from layout to decks to skins etc. etc. IMO Professional software should not be so user customizable. Here is my thinking: Take a look at any professional piece of equipment…lets say a Hand Drill. A good professional hand drill does 1 thing and 1 thing only. Now take a look at a consumer tool. They are often made to fit a wide array of uses, not as sturdy construction and are not meant for Hard use.
Thats how i Feel about VDJ…VDJ is like a cross between Serato and Traktor…but not as good as either of them…but can fit the bill of either type of software and will work.
The way i look at the software is…Serato and Traktor was made from day one with the idea that they were meant to be professional types of software…where as VDJ was made as a consumer tool first and then was changed to be a Professional software.
The comment made above comparing NI to Pioneer is exactly why i use Traktor and Serato…Here are to tools you need to do everything you want and then some…now spend the time to learn them.
Saying that Traktor is ONLY meant for EDM DJs is also so untrue that its not even funny. A lot of GREAT Scratch DJs use Traktor…Traktor DVS is amazing…A-Trak, Shiftee, are 2 that i can think of off hand.
The Positives regarding VDJ are really lacking to me. Karoke, and Video Djing. Well First off If i am ever doing a Karoke…ill probably put a bullet into my head and hang up the headphones for the rest of my life.
Regarding Video DJing…I find VDJ Video DJing is really lackluster and i find it rather…actually really bland. I use Resolume for Video DJing and i will never go back to any other program for Video DJing.
IMO and im totally bias having used Serato, Trakto and VDJ. Serato and Traktor are hands down my personal favs.
October 29, 2012 at 8:34 pm in reply to: Would You Consider This DJing? Put It On Playlist and Leave. #30993ParticipantIMO this aint DJing…look at the word DJ…lets break those 2 words apart.
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JockeyDisc – Music Source
Jockey By definition – 1. Sports To ride (a horse) as jockey.
2. To direct or maneuver by cleverness or skill: [COLOR=#226699]jockeyed the car into a tight space.[/COLOR]
3. To trick; cheating
So I guess by definition 3 they would be correct. But we all know that this is term #2.
How is the person a DJ?
I would call him a DJB – DigitalJukeBox.ParticipantI pretty much did the same as Terry.
Except within my company we have a crap load of equipment that we all use.
I suggest saving up and buying a new controller…and then if u like it sell the CDJs…if you dont like it you will always have the CDJs and you can sell the controller. The market is pretty hot for Digital these days so you should be able to sell your controller with minimal losses.
ParticipantNo Worries!
Thats what we are here for 😀
ParticipantDJing is a Marathon…not a sprint.
It takes years to get your name out there and recognized. You cant be discouraged. IMO play what you like and your crowd will eventually be there…its not going to happen over night…it will take years.
I moved into a new City 3 years ago…and i started playing out in this city about a year ago…and just NOW am i getting my own following…people who specifically come out to my nights.
ParticipantIf you spend the time to use itunes and get itunes to work for you…its amazingly easy to set up playlists and crates.
I have over 50 different smart playlists setup and finding any track is a breeze.
Participant^ What he said. but instead of VDJ or Serato Put in Traktor
ParticipantI dont really reccomend going to a touch screen for live shows…and here is my thinking…
1- Another Piece of expensive equipment that you have to carry around thats not so portable…
2 – DJ booths are already cramped as hell already
3 – Touch Screens are really not more intuitive than actual Buttons and Knobs, Bigger Chance of making mistakes on a touch screen
4 – What exactly would you want to control with it that you couldnt control with an additional controller?
5 – Ipads dont really have a learning curve. Especially with Lemur on the OS.IMO Windows 8 wont be really useable for at least another 6-8 months. I have read that Windows 8 is horrible for gamers…and that makes me feel that it will be bad for us DJs as well. Windows 7 is actually pretty dang stable now…and it does everything i need for DJing…so if it aint broke why fix it?
ParticipantAs a rule of thumb…i never update to the latest Windows OS until SP2 has been released…there are always waayy too many bugs with new OS.
Why would you need a touch screen monitor for your DJing? would you bring it out with you? The reasons why you want something like that will directly impact if you need it or not.
If you are looking for something to be able to control a lot more of your DJing interface…i suggest getting the Lemur OS if you have the money for the ipad.
October 26, 2012 at 6:29 pm in reply to: Getting better sound in your dj sets (Tony Andrews interview) #30852ParticipantIMO this really isnt a valid discussion…the First and foremost factor here is…what is the sound system being used to play these AMAZING wav and CD files. For Pete sake 90% of clubs have all their sound systems set to mono…and are meant to be loud speakers not True Reproduction speakers.
2nd off as Will said the crowd is usually 1/2 drunk or really drunk and dont care that they cant hear every single little nuance of the song…hell most of them go ape shit nuts hearing “Oh sometimes i get a good feeelin” Do they care that its not 100% clean…or that you can hear that small little synth line thats behind it? Hell no.
In the day where everyone listens to their favorite tracks wearing shitty ipod headphones…99.9% of them dont really even know all the subtle nuances that a lot of producers put into their tracks.
I use nothing but 320kbps MP3s and ive played before and after CDJ and Wax DJs and i have never had an issue of my sets sounding flat or muddled as the guy before me. Proper EQing and using of the headphones will eliminate any subtle differences. Oh and knowing your software and soundcard in and out to get the best possible sound is a good idea 😀
ParticipantSelect your entire music library, and then right click and select Async…it will set your grid and analyze all your tracks.
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