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  • in reply to: Save a free app you are depending on (Cry Wolf…) ? #2414011
    eder1
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    Yes, you are wrong and that’s why i started this topic.
    Since (around) october 2015 Apple changed their police again, and you can not restore something, even if you have bought it, if it’s gone from the app store (we are talking apps for ipad/iphone here).

    I just wanted to know if somebody had the name of some software that could easily copy the app itself (i am not talking about the app-data) to a safe location on your desktop computer, or to an usb, and if your ipod/iphone burned up, and you got another, it would be easy to restore it to that device. I haven’t got any answers here, so far, just misunderstandings and facts that are wrong, so i suppose either nobody has have the need for this, yet, or they simple do not use free apps professionally. I don’t know.

    Admin, you may delete this thread if you like, it doesn’t fill any purpose it seems.

    in reply to: Save a free app you are depending on (Cry Wolf…) ? #2413331
    eder1
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    Thanks for answering, b.t.w! Though it seems that my topic perhaps was a bit unclear

    My question was more like a hypothesis: ”What would happen if”.

    It’s not that i’m “dependent” of a ”silly” app on the ipad or something. It’s just that i like it because of it’s quality.

    i thought it was good to lift this topic in a forum for “digital dj’s” (not that we’ll ever be able to do anything about apple’s random policy changes) and see if somebody realized that this problem does exists, and/or is checking the facts what is available, especially when some of the best dj-apps out there, actually, is, and has been for a while, free, lol 🙂

    I think you are both wrong and right in what you say about the ”you are only having the right to use the software”. It’s not like psysical CD’s for example)

    When we are talking about using software on a desktop computer that did not originate from the apple store, you actually own your software, free or paid for, and you can do what you want. if it’s a great version of an audio-editor,for example, in theory, if something better hasn’t been developed, you could be using it for a decade (i know examples of people doing that, too).

    It’s just that apple has made it technically more difficult in iOS9, blaming the ”App Thinning” as a reason… for not beeing able to save a local copy of your app.

    I have been investigating a little more now, and there are actually desktop software that let’s you make a proper backup (not like one the cloud) of your free software, including the app itself and not only the data…, but it is only possible as long as you are staying on iOS8. It seems that this topic was one that not really anyone was interesting in, so…

    Lesson: Sometimes/often it’s wise to not automatically update things just because one assume that something better will follow with the next version.

    When it comes to software, its not always like that, unfortunately, because new bugs are introduced with each version, and everything will have to be tested as new, by the developer again, which cost time and money and not everybody does that, including apple themselves.. now letting us, the users test their OS for them.

    in reply to: Save a free app you are depending on (Cry Wolf…) ? #2413151
    eder1
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    p.s: You can “stack your professional career” on a free product also, it’s just that very few of the professional things are given away free.

    Have you ever tried a professional free app (compared to one that costs 10, or 1000 usd)? I can tell you that they exist, and they can be free for many different reasons.

    But that was not the issue here The issue is that the free product can/is dissapearing with time, and in the apple infra-structure nobody has a solution for this (as far as i know), yet.

    Our “business”, is the DJ-business (and yes, you can be in that business running a free, professional app, if you know were to look.

    and… just to make this question more clear: We are talking only about apps here, not software. Software is for desktop computers (apple/pc etc), apps are for ipads or even iphones.

    This problem does not exist for software, because you can always, in one way, legal or not, find a way to make a backup of the software you run on your desktop computer (free or paid), and use that “forever, like people do with photoshop etc, etc

    So… does anybody have a solution, or am i the only one seeing this as a problem?

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