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May 30, 2012 at 8:41 pm in reply to: Confused about manual beatmatching. Nudging and all that stuff. #1005328D-Jam
Participantadit, post: 21118, member: 2099 wrote: sorry I mean looking at phase meter, not beatgridding. now I’ve removed the phase meter and now practice feels more satisfying.
Even that’s a tool. You paid money for the function in your software. Don’t be ashamed to use them if you want.
If you’re happier turning them off, then go with that. Just be happy and don’t worry about anyone passing judgement.
May 29, 2012 at 4:11 pm in reply to: Confused about manual beatmatching. Nudging and all that stuff. #1005224D-Jam
Participantadit, post: 20991, member: 2099 wrote: 1. I just move the slider with feeling to beatmatch. So it’s a trial and error process. Sometimes I don’t know which track is going faster so I just slide it up and down and hope for the best. So, is there any good tips of how to do this? I’ve browsed some articles and Youtube vids but they all seem vague. I want something concrete.
It feels a lot like trial and error, but the more you do it, the easier it gets. Eventually you just get instinctual on it all.
That’s the best way I can say it. I started by trying to just get 32 beats held, then 64, 128, etc…now I go for 1-2 minutes and can get things ready to match in 10 seconds or less.
The nudging and such is mostly about adjustment. So you have them both at 130 BPM, and you know it’s right, but things sound off…you nudge to get the kick drums on the right spots.
adit, post: 20991, member: 2099 wrote: 2. OK, let’s say I’m finally able to make 2 tracks rather in sync. When I’m at this stage, I usually cheat and look at the monitor to do some beatgridding with the jog wheel (the BPM of the two tracks are still different but only a bit, is this okay?). My question is, how do you do this without looking at the beatgrid? How should I know whether to nudge the wheel clockwise or counter-clockwise, or if I have to nudge it at all?
Why is it cheating? You have the tools, use them.
I only say not to fully trust the visuals, as they will lie sometimes. However, I don’t see an issue with using the visuals. Don’t let “purists” and old farts tell you how to “keep it real”. Their thinking is obsolete…and mind you I came from that time.
adit, post: 20991, member: 2099 wrote: 3. When monitoring a track with headphones, do I have to start it at a beginning of a phrase the master track, or can I just start randomly?
I would phrase match when you’re figuring it out. You might decide this tune doesn’t work for you and thus look for another.
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ParticipantI’d tell you to go no lower than 192.
Even in a bar, you might notice the sound on those 128s is not as “crisp” and distinct as the 320s or wav files. In epic/emotional trance, which has many layers of many sounds to make that full effect…a lower bitrate will get rid of many of those little tweaks and blips you only hear when you’re listening.
Can you get away with 128? Yes…but I think you should shoot for better simply because as one person alluded to, if you play a 128 and then go up to a 320, you will hear a difference.
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ParticipantThere’s two guides on here to read:
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2011/09/how-to-promote-events-throw-your-own-parties-part-1/
Part of what you have to do is have something the people want. If you’re the dubstep/underground guy who is in a town that only wants mainstream music, then you need to either think of a way to trick that crowd into broadening their musical horizons, or think bigger and draw out all the other underground folk.
I think most of the issue facing DJs who want more people to come out is they either have a sound/product no one wants, or the events being thrown do not appeal to everyone. If your area is full of fashion people who wants elegant bottle service see-and-be-seen events…then pushing a dark basement pounding beats night won’t get them out.
Look at those guides, think “marketing” and less “DJ” and then build an event/product people will never get enough of.
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ParticipantI’ll check it out just out of curiosity.
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ParticipantGood luck ADHDJ!
I don’t think you’ll be disappointed, but you might moan over the load to lug to gigs. 😉
I mainly push guys to go Midi when they don’t have the cash for the bigger gear and they want to remain more portable.
I might have sold off my CDJs years ago, but I will never regret getting them or using them. They’re wonderful pieces of gear.
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ParticipantSome guys in Chicago would throw some wild/colorful electroclash/retro nights. Their main DJ (and promoter) was a guy named Pier Novikov. He never beatmatched or mixed, just slid things in at the right time…much like I’d see older disco DJs do. The crowd loved him.
Goes to show how much song selection/programming matters. Look at how Larry Levan spun at the Paradise Garage, or old recordings of Pickering, Park, and De Salva at the Haciencda.
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ParticipantI think as long as he’s not going to wreck your gear, just go have fun with it.
This whole thing sounds like a “favor” or “freebie” for a friend…so don’t take it so seriously. Have some fun, use the time when the other is one to get a few drinks, some food, etc.
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ParticipantChristopher A Johnson, post: 20520, member: 157 wrote: Hey guys, long time since I’ve posted. I’ve seen a variety of mixing in Chicago clubs and would like some input on this. I was at a club Saturday that focused solidly on radio hits and remixes. One DJ was blending and beat matching fairly well, despite my dislike of a lot of the songs. The second DJ continued w/ radio hits but was doing more hard slamming from one song to the next. I noticed more R&B and Hip Hop songs were slammed but the club hits 4-4 songs were matched. It was an interesting style.
Im a musician but I can honestly say I don’t consciously notice when keys match between songs. Maybe thats the point but a lot of emphasis is placed on mixing in key and I wonder if the average club person notices. So after last weekend out, Im thinking of putting less emphasis on beat matching Hip Hop and just match tempo.
4-4 House is easy to match manually or using Sync so thats not my question. What do you focus more attention on; beat matching or key?
In a trendy club, most patrons won’t care if the DJ is using long solid blends or short bursts…they only care if they hear their favorite tunes.
They won’t care if you cleverly remixed from a nice beat outro to an accapella and then flawlessly moved it into the normal tune. They’re only caring if you’re playing Rihanna, Guetta, Katy Perry, etc.
I know it sucks for those playing mainstream spots…but I’ve barely ever seen a crowd in those locations that cared about the quality of mixing. They’re more about the actual tunes. Long blends and harmonic mixing are only more appreciated in the underground spots and especially in pre-recorded mixes you download or get on CD.
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ParticipantI’ll quote part of a blog entry I wrote…
http://www.d-jam.com/thoughts/2012/04/01/the-great-debate-sync
BUT…you should still know how to manually beatmatch
Surprise! You didn’t think this would be a 100% support of the sync. Oh no. Forget what others tell you on “cheating” and such. As a DJ you should still know how to manually beatmatch songs simply because sync isn’t fullproof and perfect.
Remember that one night I mentioned where I first used sync? That very night I had sync fail on me a few times. One problem is that in Torq, you can set up a BPM range when it scans tunes. For me, I had mine at 60-160 BPM. I pulled out some tunes and saw their BPM read as 63.0 or 62.5…and these were house tunes. What happened was the scan ended up putting the beat grid on every other beat, so when I tried sync, the song came in very fast.
When I made those mixes I posted using sync, I often times had at least one blend I had to do manually, and often times I had to recalibrate the beat grids. So I mix in, and at some point I stop the tune, recalibrate, mix it out into the next tune, and then had to piece all these recorded parts together in Sound Forge.
The big problem is that sync will mathematically determine the beat. So it’ll scan the tune, see the usual pattern, and then lay the grid on it based on the first 1/4 of the song. What if the tempo slows down during the tune, and then speeds back up? What if the producer puts an extra four beats as a lead-in to get out of the breakdown? These factors will make sync fail for a DJ who relies on it.
I remember back in that gig at SubClub in Slovakia, I was put in front of a laptop with Virtual DJ on it. No decks, no controller. So I was on my own to make it work. Like I did in that other gig, I used the sync, but I do remember when I tried to mix in French Kiss by Lil Louis, it wouldn’t work…so I just went manually and made it work using the pitch bend controls. Even the slowing down of the song through its infamous sexual breakdown will mess up the beatgrid, thus you have to go manual to mix out of the tune when it speeds back up.
As a DJ, you have to make it happen. You can’t just decide to not play certain tracks or allow bad blends because you’re unwilling to be able to handle any situation. What if your dog knocks over a beer on your laptop at home? You can’t just call the promoter and tell him you can’t play. You have to make it work, even if it means showing up with a book of CDs and using the club’s equipment. If you want to be seen as a professional, then you can’t have excuses, or else you won’t get booked again.
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ParticipantMost of the music made in the 80s and 90s were made with actual machines over a DAW. Yes they had sequencers, but many producers back then were rank amateurs and thus did not have easy tools to make things as tight as they can today.
The only real solution is to manually beatmatch or do every trick you know to fix those beatmaps.
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ParticipantI think if scratching is needed, then invest the money on whatever controller Phil says is ideal for it.
For me, I like jogwheels simply because it’s what I’m used to.
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ParticipantFrankly, I simply say “no” or “I’ll play it later”.
If she’s all in a rush because she and her pals are bar-hopping, then I won’t bother to play any of their requests. I’ll play music for the loyal people who come and stay…not the wannabes who just “make an appearance”.
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ParticipantWhen I had my own office, I kept an X-Session Pro in my desk and would work on new mixes when I had down time. Unfortunately when they moved us into cubes I stopped doing that (since I have no privacy now).
I’ll still listen to tunes and find new stuff, but I’ll be honest it’s hard to find time to DJ for me with work, household responsibilities, and family/friends stuff always popping up.
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