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ParticipantSeriously. You guys sometimes make the American music industry’s attitude seem sane.
Nah, not really, but you got your own weirdnesses to add to the mix. heh.
But America is king at *bleep*ed up attitudes toward aggression toward one’s own customers.
December 18, 2015 at 5:56 pm in reply to: Choosing between Serato and Traktor – specific questions/functionality #2322771Participant“While they don’t let you use third party plug ins (which is a good thing, trust me, I have used many as a sound engineer and not all plug ins are created equal)”
You say not supporting third party plug ins is a good thing, because not all plug ins are created equal.
Not meaning to misconstrue what you are saying, but that’s how that read to me.
December 18, 2015 at 4:53 pm in reply to: Choosing between Serato and Traktor – specific questions/functionality #2322671ParticipantI certainly have to agree with Chuck on Izotope… if they made the effects, then they’re going to be technically solid. While I own Serato due to picking up a Terminal Mix 8, I haven’t used it enough to actually have practical experience with the effects.
Don’t agree about third party plugins, though… there’s a logical flaw in your argument. Just because not all third party plugins are as good as the built-ins doesn’t mean all third party plugins are not good (by supporting VSTs, for example, one could also easily use Izotope effects that weren’t developed specifically for their software). This is the “Composition/Division” logical fallacy. However, as some of y’all know, I’m a lot more willing to get my (virtual) hands dirty than the average user.
I’m not a real serious effects user anyway… the styles I play tend to really not need effects, nor even leave a whole lot of room for them, so I try to be real subtle with them.
December 18, 2015 at 4:43 pm in reply to: Hello, house, tech-house and techno DJ on board :) #2322611ParticipantHowdy, Vladislav, welcome!
ParticipantHowdy, Piotr, welcome!
December 17, 2015 at 9:35 am in reply to: Choosing between Serato and Traktor – specific questions/functionality #2320501ParticipantIt occurs to me… you mention effects. It might also be worth it for you to take a look at VirtualDJ… it allows you to use VSTs for your effects, so you’re not restricted to the effects the developers built for you. It’s funny, but the folks making the DJ programs don’t seem to be as good at coding effects.
December 17, 2015 at 9:30 am in reply to: Choosing between Serato and Traktor – specific questions/functionality #2320481ParticipantYeah, Serato is supposed to be closer to the “two turntables/CDJs and a mixer” paradigm, and getting more and more so all the time (or, more specifically, Traktor is getting less so).
December 17, 2015 at 5:43 am in reply to: Choosing between Serato and Traktor – specific questions/functionality #2320111ParticipantWhether it’s obvious or not probably depends more on you… many people find Traktor’s interface to be confusing. If you have any experience with old school trackers, though (SoundTracker on the Amiga, or FastTracker on the PC, to name a couple), then you’ll probably like Traktor’s interface just fine.
ParticipantYou should probably create a new thread if you want to actually get an answer – the “new post” form is at the bottom of the sub-forum index. I would also recommend not posting it in this sub-forum, as this is for posts related to the forum itself, not questions about hardware or software. You should probably put your post in DJ Software, since Serato is the primary topic.
ParticipantIt’s not up yet, but djs.com is a “coming soon” that is supposed to be DJ friendly, like Mixcloud, but if I understand it properly is supposed to also be able to legally host (essentially) bootleg remixes and the like.
However, it’s vaporware at the moment, so, we’ll see what happens.
December 16, 2015 at 8:36 am in reply to: Choosing between Serato and Traktor – specific questions/functionality #2318601ParticipantThere are others who will hopefully weigh in with more detail than what I’m providing here, but based on what you’ve just described, I’m pretty sure both pieces of software will do what you want.
Since you are leaning toward the SX2, I’m pretty sure you get a license from Serato included in the price of admission, so even if you do end up on Traktor, you’ll own both pieces of software… I’d say spend some time with Serato, see if it works for you, then download the demo of Traktor Pro 2 if you find Serato to not feel right for you.
The downside to this is, if you DO end up in Traktor, then… you’d’ve been better off getting the S4, as the HID mode will still be better, even if you aren’t going to be scratching. However, not enough to REALLY care all that much, I do do a little bit of scratching, and not owning a Traktor device didn’t impact my experience in a why that I could feel.
ParticipantYeah, it is going to be important to consider kit that has a soundcard in it, as cueing on headphones while you play is a pretty important thing to have and learn. That said, it looks like both of the ones you’re looking at include built in soundcards, so you’re good in regard to that. The Universal looks like it has better options for output, including both RCA and mini (in addition to the headphone jack), which should cover home stereo and powered computer speakers for taking it to friends’ houses, but as I look at the images over at Hercules’ site, it appears that when used with a mobile device that it may not support headphones when using it with a mobile device in Bluetooth mode.
On the other hand, the Pioneer brand certainly has a lot more respect than Hercules amongst the DJing community, so while you’ve heard me pound on about the Hercules, that is not to say that the WeGo3 isn’t something to seriously consider.
If possible, it might be good to get out to a local music hardware shop that sells DJ gear and see if you (and he, of coz) can maybe gerfingerenpoken with them both to see which feels nicer too.
ParticipantI was very happy with a Hercules as my first controller, though it wasn’t specifically the Universal. That said, while it’s nowt for mobile devices, I do highly suggest the Hercules DJ Control Instinct as a great intro controller in the “find out if you’re going to stick with it long enough to go for the more expensive toys” range. I paid 85 euro for mine a couple years ago, I don’t think the price has gone up.
Since then, upgraded to a Reloop Terminal Mix 8 and am letting the kiddo use the Hercules.
ParticipantI don’t see any Traktor mappings listed over at DJTT’s map collection (https://maps.djtechtools.com/). That’s an incredibly comprehensive collection of MIDI maps, so, if it’s not there, then you probably won’t be able to find one for download, you’ll have to figure out how to set up the mapping yourself.
For Serato, you don’t really set up mappings in the same way you do with most DJ software… instead, the manufacturer of your controller licenses Serato and builds the mapping themselves. If it’s a Serato licensed controller, then it “just works.” If it isn’t a Serato licensed controller, then it won’t work with Serato at all, and there’s not much can be done about it. The only custom mapping that can really be done with Serato is secondary controllers, but this is typically to do things like set up a Launchpad to trigger samples or what have you… not what you’re looking for.
It looks like the Wellpoint comes with VDJ (not sure if it’s the lite version or not), so it might be easiest to start there if you are too intimidated by creating a custom Traktor mapping.
ParticipantAH. OK, I think I’ve tracked it down… if I include an internal link in a post, it eats the link, if I include an external link in a post, it eats the post.
This is lookin’ like a bug.
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