DJ Vintage

D-Jam, post: 40993, member: 3 wrote: Wow…I found a sloppy recreation of the timeline here: http://braithouse.tripod.com/guideto_eng.htm

wow … that caused all kinds of unwanted popups. Not a very nice site. Sorry dude.

Greetinx,
C.

Dayvue, post: 40990, member: 837 wrote: My reasons for having gone the DVS route instead of sticking with controllers, not in order:
1) Go to a gig without having to bring a controller/mixer/turntables

… Are you saying every club has a DVS setup? They are pretty rare and far between here.

2) Learn to dj the original way. Appreciate the creative options that technology allows

… Not sure if you need to learn the old skool way to appreciate the technological advances

3) Actually scratching with a 12″ platter with torque instead of imitating it on CDJs

Ever tried the 9″ real vinyl, adjustable torque, spinning platter on the SC3900?

4) Be able to play actual vinyl (and therefore allowing me to dig for tracks in the bargain section of Vintage vinyl, the nearby record store). Acquire vinyl collection. Feel cool and hipster. Also note that if you shop for funk/soul/r&b, you can nowadays get like 20 songs for $3 or less at a record shop.

…If I am not mistaken, you can’t mix between playing control vinyl and playing actual records, can you? So, you’d have to switch your setup for playing actual vinyl as opposed to playing DVS with timecode vinyl, right?
And how about not having to lug anything to a gig, see point 1? The heaviest bit of kit in an old skool vinyl setup was … you guessed it … the crates of dead vinyl.

5) See DVS feels “better” than a controller. It does.

… a matter of personal taste. I love the occasional round of vinyl playing (did so on Queensday here), but wouldn’t go back to doing my mobile gigs with vinyl or VDS systems.

6) You look cooler using turntables than using a controller.

… the big question here being, looking cooler to WHOM? Yourself in the mirror or the crowd. I doubt the latter care much either way.

Finally, the advantage of DVS over the NS7/V7/spinning platter things are
1) You can play real vinyl.
2) It is modular, and therefore more compatible when jamming with other people.
3) For me, controllers should be small and light (e.g. VCI 300/380). If you’re going to go big, go big (DVS).
4) if other djs want to use my equipment, tt’s are more versatible and universal

… As I said the SC3900 have the real vinyl feel, according to those I know that own or have used them. I don’t see how it is more modular than any setup with two CDJs and a mixer or a controller setup for that matter. I actually think that more people know how to use CDJs these days than turntables, so not too sure about the using your equipment is easier.

Actually real vinyl used by someone NOT knowing what they are doing is more likely to lead to a) poor results and b) damage to your gear. I never loaned out my TTs to anybody that I didn’t know very well and who’s skill set I knew and trusted. Even then, they’d have to bring their own stylii.

Long story short. In my opinion playing real vinyl is totally different from playing DVS. Real vinyl is just slapping plastic on, reading the records, dropping the needle and doing your thing with a regular analogue mixer. Not technology involved.
DVS on the other hand is controller-based digital DJ-ing, you are just using timecode vinyl on turntables to control the tune. And yes, vinyl feels great, so I can see how that appeals to many people.

I am happy for you that you found something that works for you. In my opinion ANY setup will work as long as it works for YOU.

Greetinx,
C.

There is a pretty solid alternative to consider if you want to go DVS but still have the option of playing CDs and USB music AND control Traktor or other software.

The Denon SC3900 has a vinyl like rotating platter that (although somewhat smaller than a 12″ vinyl and according to those who used them) seems to behave awfully close to an SL1200 turntable. The good thing is that timecode is built-in, so you don’t have to use timecode CDs.

Get the X1600 mixer with it (Traktor Scratch certified and fully midi) and you have a pretty neat setup you can use in just about any configuration.

Just a thought.

Greetinx,
C.

Any reason for the non-harmonic mixing?

Not judging, just wondering about the creative process that led to this decision.

Greetinx,
C.

I am a two-year user of the MC6000, effectively the 4-deck version of the MC3000. What info are you looking for?

Greetinx,
C.