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Coltrane09, post: 41790, member: 2800 wrote: So on the back of the MC6000 for Mix Mode there is an option for PC Mix v. Int Mix. When I switched to Int Mix everything was fine until I tried to use my Remix/Sample Decks for my DJ drops. The sample decks are set on Channels 1 and 4 on the controller and the controller didn’t respond. Switching everything back to PC Mix on the controller and internal mix for Traktor brought everything back online.

I guess there is no way to use the sample decks on the controller using Int Mix?

Ok let’s take them one at the time 😀

The mix switch is that, it determines if you use the internal mixer in your software, in your case Traktor (and you set the Denon for PC MIX) or if you use external mixer in your software (and set your Denon to INT MIX). This does NOT have anything to do with the decks, just with the way audio is being sent.

I don’t use the remix decks and always have cd-players/media players hooked up to channel 1 and 4 for backup.

I have to go by memory here, but if instead of using the USB 1/2 and USB 3/4 matrix input on channel 2 and 3 (which is my standard two deck Traktor setting), but setting all of the matrix selectors to midi, you can control all 4 decks on their own faders and you’d use change deck button to switch between the decks. What I don’t remember clearly if this setup requires the use of Traktor internal mixer or if it functions with the external mixer setting as well. I can give it a try tomorrow or friday as I have some time to toy around with it.

Another reason why I opted for the MC6000 over the S4 when I got my first “real” controller, It was also a standalone mixer 🙂

It is hard to match the size and quality of the big jogs on the 2900 nor the feeling the full size mixers gives you (well me for that matter).

I am not disagrreing with your points, but for me it offers such versatility that it was easily worth the money.

Another less “concrete” point is that I charge my customers quite a bit for the gear. And showing up with the coffin with the 2900s and x1600 always triggers my customers wow-factor.

Since I always brougth two cd-players with me anyway for backup and they needed upgrading, this was the next logical step for me.

Hi, the a-thru-b settings only have to do with the crossfader, for every channel fader you can choose if it becomes the a or b side of the x-fader or if it ignores it (thru).

When you set external mix in traktor, but don’t set INTERNAL MIX on the Denon at the same time, it won’t work as it is supposed to.

So, be sure to check that setting too.

Good luck & greetinx,
C.

WOHOOOO Terry, ouch!

I beg to differ (agree to disagree?). I would say that Denon SC2900 vs CDJ-900 is a hands down victory for the Denon. 2900 vs 2000 is slightly more difficult until you throw in the ridiculous price difference in which case it is also a hands down victory for the 2900s. The ONLY drawback (but this is also true if you use one kind of software and want to switch) is that if you also play out on Pioneer gear, you would have to keep both an Engine and a Rekordbox library.

The iPad feature for Denon’s Engine is something I really like. You can play without a laptop with just your tracks on a USB device and still have a nice 10″ (or 7″ for the iPad mini) touchscreen for all your library work instead of just the media player displays.

I don’t know what brings Terry to his statement, he is uncharacteristically short and not motivating his answer as I am used to. I would say it depends greatly on the mixer you get. I have the X1600 which is a FULL 4-channel standalone matrix mixer (digital) with good digital FX engine built in, but also a FULL midi mixer. There is actually a mapping for 2x 2900 plus 1x 1600 for Traktor. You can have the best of both worlds, push one button and your entire channel strip suddenly controls something in Traktor, or the 4 banks of 4 rotary and 4 push button switches (you can map remix decks to them or regular decks, or library functions, anything you like).

So, with that particular combo (and I have the set, so I know what I am talking about), you can do anything you like and more. You can even go DVS if you like. The X1600 is Traktor certified and the 2900s have built in timecode (no need for discs).

New the price is just under 2400 euro for the set here (I paid even less because I got B-stock/showroom gear). I opted for a coffin which was another 250 euro, but you can go for single flightcases of course. A far cry from the 5.5k+ you’d spend on a 2000Nexus set.

Be sure to read Phil’s reviews on the 2900s and the X1600 and the reviews on other DJ sites.

Greetinx,
C.

People singing on top of each other is just about as rude as people talking through each other.

Another more technical reason is that vocals happen roughly in the 2 to 4 KHz area. Engineers take lot’s of care to clean up that frequency band to bring out the vocals and not have them “drown” in the mix. Mixing in another set of vocals therefor usually almost doubles the energy in that frequency range, which throws off the total balance of each track individually and of the combined sound.

So, listen to the old hacks around here … don’t mix vocals on vocals!

Greetinx,
C.

Yooo Atom,

Is that including or excluding the PA end?

Greetinx,
C.

I hope so, being all thumbs seems rather more useful in the bedroom than in a busy club with people looking on.