DJ Vintage
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ModeratorHi Matt, from one old (53 years – 39 on the decks) to another: welcome to the forums!
Tell us a little more about yourself. Type of DJ, why you ever got into it, why you still are. Daytime job – if any.
Enjoy your time here.
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ModeratorYou asked for advice, I have given you some. Your reaction does suggest you didn’t want advice but confirmation that you could get by with the cheaper laptop. I’ll just stand by my earlier suggestion that both laptops are essentially not fit for DJ-ing (not just based on specs, but as a general rule for low(est)-end consumer laptops. If you are serious about a laptop for DJ-ing, you should consider spending at the very least 800-1000 euro (this will also get you a very decent and usable MacBook Pro). Twice that if you want new high-end machines.
While it is no secret that manufacturers will use slightly higher than absolutely necessary specs to avoid lots of customer complaints, it is a gamble. You might get away with it, but if you don’t there is nobody you can blame. And these specs are valid for the current software. It’s a fair guess that somewhere in the near future Traktor will come out with version 3 (2 has been around for a LONG time) and nobody can say what that will do for min. specs. Of course you could stick with version 2, but it will no longer be developed/supported.
Personally even with comparable specs I find that laptops under-perform compared to desktops. Especially with on-board video (all low-end laptops essentially) there is extra strain on the CPU. Compared with the always less than optimal airflow in laptops, temperature can quickly become an issue. Especially if you are playing in a badly ventilated dance venue with high temperatures, high moisture levels and often smoke/faze in the air.
There are (and we have read them here too) plenty of horror stories of perfectly good laptops that just crash an hour or two into a set only to be revived after some serious cooling down. BTW, this is not exclusive for laptops, even good “ole” Nexus(2) CDJs have been known to lock up due to overheating, taking up to 10 minutes to cool down and reboot.
Again, not saying you might not get away with it, but just putting out the warning that this DOES happen in real-life performance situations.
On the flip-side, you are clearly not playing at (well)paid gigs, if you were you’d have the money for a proper laptop in a gig or 2-3. And as such your customers can’t really be too picky. They can’t expect to not pay someone well yet have them bring in expensive, pro-level gear. Ergo, your responsibility for the consequences is far less.
As a mobile DJ I am paid handsomely for my art and for my gear, so both need to be in top condition. Failure isn’t an option and will ultimately cost me not only my reputation (future income) but also money for that particular gig. This clearly influences the budget you (can/must) allocate and the consequences of possible breakdown.
The good thing about advice is you can take it to heart or decide to do nothing with it. At least you are forewarned.
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ModeratorI would even opt for a small PA/Webcast mixer (like the Yamaha MG or AG series) and run your stereo output and environment sound (just point one or more mics on the crowd) and record it all in separate tracks in a DAW (the mixers come with a copy of cubase). That way you will have the clean stereo output from your controller with a time-synced environment track that you can then individually edit to sound the best with your set. Obviously only interesting if you want to publish/ditribute the tapes, not necessary if you only look at it yourself.
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ModeratorYou would need something to keep the lid up though and prevent it from dropping down when you have the extra units set up. You can also make it so the top shelf angles down a bit (not too much as that will throw the CDJs off) and secure those with a small chain or something
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Moderatorwhatever option you choose, it will require some (re)work. Could you not add a layer of wood to the lid (inside), if you glue and screw that and sink the screws in and paint them over, you should not be able to see them, but you’d have enough “meat” to screw in the hinges needed for the extra plateau?
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ModeratorThere have been some recent threads on laptops for DJ-ing purpose. Unfortunately they all boil down to the same thing, either get a (used) MacBook Pro or a business/gaming model windows laptop. i5, 8GB, 128GB SSD seems to be the bottom end. And those will cost you almost as much as comparable MBPs. Traktor states the 2.0GHz i5 as a minimum with a minimum of 4GB. It is never fun buying new equipment now that barely is sufficient. With the way technology develops what is minimum now will be too little in a relatively short period of time.
So I would recommend a faster i5 or even i7 (I understand the budget restrictions btw) with 8GB and a 25GB SSD as the go to laptop for now and then next few years. Also, the lower spec machine, the harder it has to work and the warmer it gets. And especially on the more budget laptops temperature issues do occur.
Would love to tell you “yes, there is a 400 dollar laptop perfectly suited for DJ-ing”, but that is not the case.
I think I would look for a laptop with a good i5 CPU but of an older generation (not the 6xxx, but maybe 5xxxx or even 4xxx), they will most likely be cheaper to get. You can usually add RAM (from 4 to 8GB) yourself, provided there are free slots in the laptop. And even an SSD you could swap yourself.Hope that helps a little.
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ModeratorIf you don’t mind removing the gear, you could probably make a fold down regal in the lid?
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ModeratorSeriously, this is my main reason for not wanting more than one kind of software. It is easy enough to use iTunes in both platforms, but as soon as cue points and loops and such are involved, it becomes a whole new ball game with only an external tool like RekordBuddy helping out.
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ModeratorI need to point out that Mixvibes Cross is pretty good with video as well and the total cost might be a bit lower than using Serato or RB DJ with add-ons.
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ModeratorWell … I think you just correctly described the battle between isolationists versus open platform. Seriously, on the one hand there is fear that if you open up people will leave on the other hand there is the hope that if you make it easier to switch between ALL DJ software, more people might come your way.
Oh well, things are as they are and I doubt we will ever have something more than tools like RekordBuddy.
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ModeratorOr a nice E-Z Up tent (black!)
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ModeratorAs for all the other questions, a good search on these forums will give you lots of information.
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ModeratorI don’t know the IQ range. Turbosound used to be a pretty decent brand back in the day. Not sure what the quality of stuff has been since they moved to Behringer city.
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ModeratorOr if you didn’t get the manual, you can find it in the download section over at the Pioneer site.
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ModeratorHi, we did notice you stalking, but being the nice guys we are, we never said anything LOL.
Seriously though, thanks for the introduction. Welcome to the forums and enjoy your time here.
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