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ModeratorThis is fully personal, but unless you can record in WAV, I would not use it to record things. If you start with an MP3 rip, things will only go downhill from there if you need to do post-production on the recordings and then make them into MP3s for use in your collection.
But if the XDJ-RX can record whatever comes out of the master channel, it should work. Be sure to have channel gain set correctly (0dB seriously rules) and all your EQs set to neutral. In that case I guess it would be technically possible.
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ModeratorGoogle has some good advice for you. I tried for 3 minutes and found both top 25 Halloween hits with mostly some older stuff (but more than just Thriller 😀 ) but also some house tracks for example.
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ModeratorThe lead I don’t know, not sure about the quality of the phone preamp used and the quality of the sound card it uses. If you want to go this route, I’d invest in a good sound card that you can use in a club setup as well. It will fully integrate your turntables into your setup and open the door for DVS use as well.
As far as I know the DJM600 has no built-in sound card, so that’s no use to you either.
Quite frankly, you should (imho) only rip the really special vinyls. It’s a ton of work to do an entire collection (unlike ripping CDs you can’t speed up the process) and the results can vary. While it sounds easy, play/record/done, more often than not you need to do some post-processing to get the wanted result. If your collection is huge, be prepared to spend many months digitizing it.
There are often ways to obtain digital copies of the tracks you own on vinyl. Getting your hands on those would make more sense to me.
October 4, 2016 at 10:02 pm in reply to: Just Getting Started! 2 weeks in and already addicted #2452311DJ Vintage
ModeratorHi Joe, welcome to the forums. Have a good time exploring.
As for speakers, if you read up on that topic here you will find many instances where “In PA you get what you pay for”. There is no reasonable speaker for that kind of money, certainly not a pair. So if you wanna gig, borrow or rent something decent. For practice at home either a set of “DJ monitors” (like the KRK 5″or 6″) will be good, but they are totally unsuited for “the road”. Alternatively you could try to source some used 10″ PA speakers from a good brand. Those you could use both at home and for the occasional small party.
Don’t get lured by 100 bucks a piece speakers with great marketing model names and brands that you can find on Amazon and such, it will only lead to utter disappointment imho.
Just my three cents as usual.
October 4, 2016 at 11:08 am in reply to: Question from "Mixing Power Skills" – Waveforms = Cheating? #2452151DJ Vintage
ModeratorNever intended to imply I didn’t use the stuff that is there, I do too (not much point in being a digital DJ otherwise LOL). But I do know from when I went digital first time with limited gear (Numark D2Director) or software (PC DJ Red) and a WAY too large collection, I felt I became too dependent on displays and what the computer/gear told me. It gave me a very uncomfortable feeling, something I had never experienced with vinyl (even with over 1.000 tracks available).
It involved more than just waveforms, to be honest. Too much choice, too many options when searching for the next track. I felt out of control over my collection.
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ModeratorThanks for your input, Maxy. Imho, it’s not all that confusing.
The OP said he has Technics turntables (most likely 1200s) which have only phono out. To get the sound from those into a computer and into your software, you need a mixer/sound card/controller that can transfer phono-in to USB-out, in general this means DVS capability in the hardware (not talking about the software) as DVS needs exactly that, phono-in sound into your DJ software through a USB connection.
The XDJ-RX does not have that option, nor do the Technics have USB. So these pieces of hardware used in combination or apart will not let you rip vinyl (to the best of my knowledge, but I love to be proven wrong).
Clearly he can get a new turntable WITH USB (like the Pioneers you mentioned and some other brands), in which case he needs nothing but his laptop with software and the turntable. He can also get a DJ sound card with phono input(s) and hook up his current Technics and then his computer. Finally he can go out and buy a DVS-capable controller instead of his XDJ-RX (like the MC8000, the SX2 and quite a few other, higher-end ones).
All these options require other gear than what he currently has. His question was not “what do I need to buy to make this work”, the question was “how do I configure what I currently own to take advantage of the option of ripping vinyl in RekordBox (DJ)”. The answer remains (until shown differently) that with his current gear this is not possible.
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ModeratorHi Eric, welcome to the forums. Enjoy your time here.
Don’t forget to drop any material in the Mixes, Music and Shows forums for maximum exposure.
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ModeratorTerry and I are brand new parents to an MCX8000 (one each, don’t get any ideas!), so yeah, we would say that LOL.
More on-topic though:
MC7000 offers dual-USB (DJ-handover) option that can only be found on the SZ/RZ from Pioneer. A non-feature for me, but for some important.
It also has a way better mic integration than the SX imho, but that is because I use mics a lot and the shared fader option is not one I like (everytime you switch from mic to CD, you have to reset EQ and trim and the CUE button becomes a ducking button). One of the things that happens to me is that I quickly need the mic, I flip the switch to mic and I sound like someone cut of my delicate parts because my low end EQ is still set to mix out a track. Or I hit the cue button to listen to a track and since it’s still on mic the music will drop 15dB with people on the floor looking at me funny.
The MC7000 also has split-cue. This is a feature that was on almost every mixer back in the day, but is found almost exclusively on Denon controllers. To me it’s essential if, for whatever reason (silent disco?) you have to mix in your cans all night. The option of having master in one ear and cue in the other is priceless to me.Quality-wise I am a total Denon fan. I have had/worked with their gear since forever and I can say for a fact it’s built like a tank and made for the road. Another something that may or not be important to you.
Clearly both controllers don’t have stand-alone capability (meaning laptop-less operation, they are both stand-alone mixers) or displays.
Other than that, I am confident that both have great sound cards regardless of exact specs and both will get the job done quite nicely. Showing up with either won’t leave you feeling ashamed.
Once you get passed the fact that they are both significantly larger than your MC6000 (which I also owned/used before my SX), you will love the extra space to put your fingers and the generous lay-out, the performance pads, the bigger jogs and the overall spacier feel.
BTW, my claim to fame here is that I was using an SX (not the 2 but differences are not that big) til I got my MCX80 delivered. Which truly is a mobile DJ’s wet dream imho.
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ModeratorFor one there is no guarantee that the next major upgrade for Traktor will still support non-NI gear, putting the burden of providing correct mappings in the hands of hardware manufacturers and enthusiastic supporters. The first will become less and less inclined to provide mappings as Traktor will not help (supply info) creating them nor help when users experience problems with non-NI controllers and Traktor. So there is a continuity issue, unless you don’t mind having to switch software when your controller is no longer supported.
Secondly, and this is not equally important for every user, NI controllers have bespoke/proprietary jog wheel integration that is ONLY for NI gear. The more important jog wheel response and (lack of) latency is, the better you are off having NI gear.
I have to support Terry_42 in this and say that it pretty much is that simple. Just because you can do something (like use an MC4000 with Traktor) doesn’t mean it’s the best option.
As usual it’s all just our three cents worth and everybody should do what they think will work for them.
October 3, 2016 at 9:29 pm in reply to: Question from "Mixing Power Skills" – Waveforms = Cheating? #2452001DJ Vintage
ModeratorIn general and stated in all courses as well I think, emphasis is given to “know they tunes”.
Many of us come from vinyl and early days of CDs. No waveforms (not on CDJs til way later on more recent models) or even displays at all (apart from a basic bpm read-out). Knowing your tracks intimately was not a luxury but a necessity. It had another major advantage too. While my ears were listening to the track as it played, my brain already knew when, where and how to transition into the next track (of which I knew when, where and how to transition into), giving me lots of peace of mind and time to interact with the crowd or be browsing for other tracks that would follow the next one nicely (often two or three which I knew had nice “hooks”).
To this day I can still tell you from many of the -then- popular stuff from my collection where the breaks where, what (re)mix had the best intro/outro, where the vocals where, what special sounds they had (like sirens, applause, yells).
Visual mixing (i.e. using waveforms and other on-screen tells) is helpful with dealing with unknown material. However, the whole point about “know they tunes” is that there is no unknown (or even unfamiliar) stuff in your collection.Am I guilty of occasionally peeking at the waveforms? Sure, if only because I was doing three other things at the same time like taking a request and fixing some lighting setting. Looking at the waveform will quickly “snap” me back to where in the track I am. And it’s a nice looking visual indicator to indicate time left on your track.
That said, as always, if it works for you, it works for you. At the end of the day it’s rocking the place that counts.
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ModeratorHi Drox and welcome to the forums. Enjoy your time here.
I changed your header down from all caps as it’s concerned shouting. Not polite and thus not allowed on these forums. Besides, the 6 or 7 exclamation marks already called for plenty of attention 😀
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ModeratorRecordbox (DJ?) might very well let you rip vinyl … but … you’d need a controller that is DVS capable so it can forward the sound from your phone inputs to your computer/software. The XDJ-RX does not support DVS if I am not mistaken. It will just let you play external sources like line in/phono in through the mixer part, but not through the software. This has to do with the capabilities of the built-in sound card, or rather the lack of certain capabilities.
Unless someone else has more info, my take on it is that you don’t have the right gear to make it work.
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ModeratorYou are in a bit of an odd place. On the one hand you will be new to physical controls, on the other hand you have experience with the software for 4 years, to the point that you even moved from one software to another which I assume was because it fit your style/workflow better.
I’d seriously discourage you from buying the two Pioneer ones you mention (or any other Pioneer controller for that matter) if you want to continue use Traktor. The only safe bet imho is to buy NI gear if you want to use Traktor.
Also the S1 has real CD options which you don’t need but is effectively a set of CDJ350s with a DJM350 mixer in a box. And frankly that is not really a good Pioneer setup. The XDJ-RX is a nice controller, but should only be bought if you know your have a specific need for what that controller offers.Since it’s for the home and you are starting with your first physical controller, I’d be on the lookout for a used S2 (or S4 depending on what you can find and for what price). It’s fine to get your feet wet and your hours of practice in. Sooner or later you will start to compile a list of things you want/need in your next controller. By then you are far more able to make a selection of what’s out there (like a new S5 or S8). You’ll resell the S2 and get the right controller for the next step in your DJ-ing.
Just my three cents as usual.
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ModeratorHi Kalob, welcome to the forums. Enjoy your time here.
Use the search function to find many of the (recent) articles on both selection process for new software/gear as well as music pools. For the latter the opinions vary, not everyone is so sure that it’s a good place for music discovery and paying a (usually substantial) monthly fee is the way to go.
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ModeratorAnything powered will do. Get an A-brand if you can. There has been a review on USB-hubs on the main site you might want to check out. Not the most up to date perhaps, but then again, nothing much has happened on the USB front anyway.
Don’t get the cheap stuff, spending a few bucks more will pay in the long run.
Personally I don’t think there is any need for 3.0 hubs. Your chances of NOT having any compatibility issues are way better with a 2.0 hub. Also the bandwidth with 2.0 should be plenty for a bit of Midi traffic and your sound card.
The only reason to use USB 3.0 (generally speaking) is if you want fast data transfer (USB sticks, external hard disks and such)
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