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ModeratorOh, they are reading, just about every introduction here get’s some reaction. These forums do have more of a question and answer or knowledge base character than a “let’s get together and chat” place. So, start sharing experiences and/or asking questions and you will start to see people jumping in.
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ModeratorHi Mur, welcome to the forums. Enjoy your time here.
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ModeratorNo, doesn’t work that way. You need a knob that let’s you set the balance between the cue and the master signal in your headphones.
You can of course hit both cue buttons and get both sounds in your ears, but they will be the same relative level.
A trick could be to turn up the gain on the cue channel, just don’t go into the red and remember to turn it down to the right level before the actual transition (at which point you can’t use this trick of course).
In general I would say what you want won’t work on this controller.
It works on most other starter controllers we shortlist, like the Numark MixTrack Platinum (Pro has it also I think), the Reloop Beatmix 2 mk2 and even the now a bit dated MC2000 has cue/master panning. All of those won’t work (easily) with RekordBox DJ, so in that case you are stuck with Pioneer gear.
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ModeratorIt’s a very personal call. If you are set on RekordBox DJ, then picking an “R”-series controller is probably your best bet currently. It does lock you in, so a year down the line you want to switch to Serato, Virtual DJ, Mixvibes Cross, DJay Pro or anything else, it will be hard(er). It also locks you in to Pioneer gear for now and probably for the future (think this could be on purpose?), meaning that some very good starter controllers from our shortlist are not available to you.
Normally I’d say buy a starter controller, get comfortable with it and then upgrade. You can even go used for your first controller. Those controllers are in a category that doesn’t get taken on the road much and more often than not just sits an a practice (bed)room for it’s entire life. Also many people buy one, try for a few months, decide it’s not for them and need to get rid of them. So you should be able to find some good bargains on gear that might be the previous model, but for a starter controller that is totally ok imho.
Another reason for going starter before upgrading to something more is that you need some time to figure your desired workflow out. And that has an impact on the features you might want in your future controller. So, you might end up buying a medium sedan now, only to find out in six months that a hatchback would have been better. Now you have to sell (and lose a lot of money) your sedan and go buy an equally expensive new hatchback. Had you bought a compact sedan used, it would have been easier to resell without losing big bucks and leave you with the option of buying the new hatchback with all the features you want/need on it.
On a side-note I am curious what you find lacking in the RB jog wheels. They may not be the exact same as the RR/RX, but they are certainly decent jog-wheels for a controller in it’s class. If you are looking for CDJ2000 level jogs, you will end up with an RZ at ridiculous prices. And THAT is a controller I would not want as my first on LOL.
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ModeratorOff-topic (or at least to the side) and in general:
It’s kinda fun to see and watch how (relatively) new and young DJs are making all kinds of trouble for themselves by forcefully trying to do their thing on CDJ/DJM setups and how a lot of us “old” hands are moving away from that setup rapidly with no desire to return to it, a bit like we moved from vinyl to CD-players back in the day.
My dear co-moderator, Terry_42, has reached the point that he will charge festivals and organizers MORE money if they force him to play on CDJ/DJM combo, rather than allowing him to bring his controller. I don’t charge more (yet), but I make serious work of bringing my own gear (and nothing compact like an SB, but a whopping MCX8000 now and SX before).
It’s like kids learning to drive in an electric car they bought to practice driving in. After getting their license they go out to try to find some old gas-guzzling V8, with half the features of the electric car, to go drive in, just because they assume that the V8 is something more “professional”, not realizing that for all intents and purposes the V8 (even the newly built ones) just can’t match the comfort, ease and features of a modern-day electric car.
(Ok, now don’t you all start flaming me about the draw-backs of electric cars, it’s not a one-on-one comparison, rather an illustration of my point 😀 ).
As always just my three cents.
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ModeratorI know there are ways, I just haven’t used Serato (outside) as much as I have Cross, so can’t tell you in detail what to do in this particular case.
With Cross I just hook up both CDJs with a USB cable to my laptop (powered USB-hub) and use them as so-called HID devices. And I obviously have to use the on-board FX on the mixer as there is no integration on either CDJs or DJM for using your DJ software FX.
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ModeratorI’ll leave the exact answers to the true Serato specialists among our readers.
Is there no option for you to play on your SB? It’s not a big controller and you could easily find place for it in a regular sized booth. Run two RCA into a spare channel on the mixer and off you go.
Tell them that they booked you to do the stuff they like on Facebook and then that you want your own gear in order to bring that performance.
You can always use the comparison that if you are a Formula 1 driver, you can only expect to win races in your own car (which you are familiar with and know inside out) and not when they stick you in someone else’s car, even if it is also a really nice and good car.
To me, but this is a personal opinion of course, today there is no reason to expect young, up and coming DJs to have the necessary experience on what is, in effect, old gear. No matter how much you put into a Nexus (2) and try to make it more like a controller, it is still a media player with no DJ software support (RekordBox is no more than a collection management tool which helps with waveforms and cue points for the CDJs) and if you want DJ software support your are effectively turning your CDJs into controllers, without things like 8 performance pads and good stuff like that that controllers have.
No longer do you need gear like “standard” Pioneer set-ups to perform great sets.
Again, hopefully they true Serato fans here will get you started with your actual question, but this is something to consider: don’t let others dictate what gear you “should” be using. You are the artist here and should have a fair chance of picking your own brushes. After all, it’s your musical pictures they like!
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ModeratorSince it is an entry level controller and by looking at the pictures (no buttons/knobs on the front, just a phone plug), I’d say it only has headphone level, no master/cue mix knob.
Do you intend to do a lot on in-can mixing? In that case you might not only want regular master/cue mix, but even split-cue (where you hear master in one ear and cue in the other).
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ModeratorAnd of course there is the Mixtapes course Digital DJ Tips offers, it will answer all your questions and then some …
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ModeratorOne good source for UK-based hits is the Now This Is Music and I believe there is a NOW (this is what I call) Dance series as well that has like 89s 90s and 00s compilations.
As far as I recall these where both pretty UK-centric (I know because I played clubs at the time on mainland Europe and lots of stuff was not in our charts/clubs or wasn’t as popular.
Other than that, tagging along if you can find someone who’ll let you and just scouring the internet for charts, listening to stuff and making up your own mind about what you like too.
Finally be prepared to take requests and write them down, so you can decide after a gig if you need to get them.
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ModeratorHi Ayrton, welcome to the forums. Good luck on your first real gig. Remember to enjoy the “bleep” out of it. You can only once have your first real gig, so make sure it’s something you remember.
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ModeratorHi Vedith, thanks for the nice introduction. Hope you find what you are looking for in these forums. Enjoy your time here!
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ModeratorHi there, good question. Do you have some options in the grey bar that also has the date of the post in it? One of those options should read edit. I haven’t got access to a regular login atm, only my moderator account, so can’t check for sure.
October 7, 2016 at 11:27 pm in reply to: How to keep discontinued/no longer supported gear? #2453131DJ Vintage
ModeratorYeah … or DJay Pro … Only for Mac … so they have a reputation to uphold 😀
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ModeratorHi Matt, welcome to the forums. We trust you will enjoy your time here! There are plenty of tips on almost any DJ-related topic and if you still have a specific question, just go ahead and post in the appropriate forum and wait for the answer(s) coming to you.
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