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Blockedlol,
at dj school uk if someone needs a punishment they have to practise baby scratches.
So far no one has needed a punishment, and everyone loves practising their scratching anyway 🙂
Blockedok ok i get it lol.
Thanks for all the words DJs, i have plenty to take back to the discussion at DJ School UK this evening.
If any of our young students has anymore to say I’ll post here.
Blockedyeah Warsuit, I see where you are coming from. I am wondering if, for example, using traktor remix decks to live remix up to 16 loops at a time is enough of a departure to warrant the new term?
and yeah Terry, I agree with the essential skill you describe. I have also made a living from this game for over 25 years in the North of England at raves, festivals, clubs, bars, functions, weddings, on tour with live bands etc. Apart from stadium gigs I’ve pretty much done it all. I now teach the skills and always start with the main aim being selection, above all technical skills.
But I have definitely heard many people slagging off sync DJs, and others slagging off people who only select and don’t mix. Mostly, admittedly, these haters are on the internet, but this is an internet generation. The arguments about who is best and what is “real” are alive on the web and they do seem to be mainly from the generation who don’t DJ and can’t get access to many clubs to experience it for real, but do see youtube vids and do hear many polished mixes online. So this term suggestion is not supposed to be for those of us who already know what is important. It is supposed to make it easier for those who get caught up in the arguments to pigeon-hole things to their satisfaction.That said, if it doesn’t work for you that’s cool. This all started during a debate in my DJ School and I just wanted to get a wider idea of what people of different backgrounds, experience and ages thought of it.
BlockedYes, so two definitions are not enough and the terms are mainly for marketing purposes. On a practical level I totally agree.
I am thinking along the lines of guitarists here but, there are flamenco guitarists, rock guitarists, blues guitarists and classical guitarists to name just a few. A flamenco fan might be quite annoyed if they end up hearing a rock guitarist shredding it. There is plenty of confusion about what music DJs play, especially because, for example, one “hiphop” EJ could be banging out classics all night using cds, another “hiphop” dj could be rinsing the juggles and scratches etc. A house DJ may equally be playing high sound quality vinyl with just smooth intro – outro mixes to an appreciative crowd who like to hear whole songs, while another house EJ may be remixing multiple sources, completely re-working original songs. So I was thinking this re-definition may help market what we do individually a little more clearly, without long dull biographies that won’t fit on flyers.
Obviously each act will market itself as it sees fit, and no term is necessary at anytime, especially where a picture can speak a thousand words. But I still feel “EJ” as an alternative to DJ may be useful, to customers if not acts themselves.
BTW – I personally have no preference – it’s the music that matters to me, I’m just very bored of all the haters saying “he/she isn’t really djing coz their using sync on electronic equipment” or “she/he is really boring coz they aren’t doing any mixing on their vinyl only set up.”
BlockedThats a very good point tj6000,
It’s true there are a lot of DJs who are also EJs, and a lot of EJs who also DJ. For instance Carl cox adds a drum machine to his vinyl sets as a stand alone piece of kit. Most of us are somewhere on a spectrum between the two. The terms are not proposed to be perfect, I’ve posted them to see how people feel about them. The idea is that if we accept these terms then we can advertise to the public more clearly about what we are doing – Vinyl, turntablism, live digital remixes, controllerism etc. I guess those of us who have alternative means of producing our sets will still have to advertise that difference accordingly. All I’m suggesting is we recognise the difference between the two ends of the spectrum, the main aim being to stop all the arguing that goes on!I also like “data jockey” or “digital jockey” D-Jam but of course that still leaves us with the initials “DJ” and so no one would be any the wiser lol.
And crikey djrizki, i had completely forgotten about ejay, I could see confusion there.
Anyway it’s just an idea so I’ll just keep this here and see whatever comments come up.
BlockedCheers Terry, glad to be here 🙂
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