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  • October 31, 2012 at 5:32 pm in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #31127
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    Newportdj Drew, post: 31245, member: 244 wrote: If you are just wiring an rca to xlr plug then yes it remains unbalanced (bridge pins 1&3 on XLR).
    High impedance (high z), is usually an unbalanced lead (eg a guitar or a standard Tip/sleeve mic). This is a short run and needs to be under 3 meters.
    If you are using a DI (direct injection) box to convert RCA to XLR then you are converting Hi Z unbalanced to Low Z balanced and can have a longer cable run on the XLR side but NOT on the RCA side.

    I decided to buy 2 RCA to XLR Cables at 10 feet each to give it a shot.

    I also ordered some XLR cables and this box:

    http://www.amazon.com/ART-CLEANBOXPRO-CLEANBoxPro/dp/B003S7T49K/ref=pd_sim_sbs_MI_1

    I now have two options to use whereas one will always be on standby for backup. for now, I just grabbed some 10 ft. XLRs to run out from this box.

    October 31, 2012 at 5:29 pm in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #31126
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    Thanks for such valuable info. I feel a little bit better about getting everything setup now. I guess the manufacturers of low-end controllers try to keep cot down by using RCA outs instead of XLR outs on their units. I assume the more advanced/professional controllers have the balanced outputs (XLR/TSR). Perhaps Numark feels the owners of their Mixtrack Pro units wont be DJ’ing out into a mobile system. Perhaps they expect you to run to a mixer or sound board.

    I’m sure one day I will move up in controllers. For now, the info you guys have given here has helped me tremendously.

    Thanks.

    October 31, 2012 at 6:04 am in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #31088
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    it is my understanding that even thought im converting my RCA source to XLR, that it will still remain unbalanced even though its XLR. Correct?

    October 30, 2012 at 7:41 pm in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #31067
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    DJ 2 Cut, post: 31221, member: 1112 wrote: I’ve seen XLR runs as long as 250-300 feet with no issue. I don’t know the limit though.

    Wow! I should be more than covered then. Thanks for the info.

    October 30, 2012 at 7:40 pm in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #31066
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    Hee Won Jung, post: 31220, member: 948 wrote: I think its like 25-30ft…but i could be wrong

    I’m going to order the box I described above. I don’t foresee the need for the speakers to be no more than 25-30 feet away from me when playing. So, that should be perfect. Thanks!

    October 30, 2012 at 7:03 pm in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #31063
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    Hee Won Jung, post: 30946, member: 948 wrote: You will want to use something like this:

    http://www.rane.com/bb44x.html

    I believe Jensens make something similar to this that will probably be cheaper.

    If I were to use a box like this, I can do a short RCA run from the controller to the box. After that, how far can I run XLR reliably from these boxes?

    October 28, 2012 at 8:48 am in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #30906
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    Hee Won Jung, post: 30946, member: 948 wrote: You will want to use something like this:

    http://www.rane.com/bb44x.html

    I believe Jensens make something similar to this that will probably be cheaper.

    This looks like its more suitable for my budget and needs:

    http://www.amazon.com/ART-CLEANBOXPRO-CLEANBoxPro/dp/B003S7T49K/ref=pd_sim_sbs_MI_1

    Before I try this, I’m going to order 2 single RCA>XLR cables from monoprice (one for left and one for right) and try running them directly from the controller to the the individual speakers (red to right speaker and white to left speaker). My reading tells me I should be ok up to 10ft./3meters. If I have any problems with this scheme I will try the box above. I will probably get the box eventually anyway since it allows me to convert an 1/8″ Mini-phone plug to XLR also. This way, I can always use an ipod/tablet/celphone as backup to out sound to the speakers.

    Here are the cables I’m going to order this week:

    http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10244&cs_id=1024404&p_id=4778&seq=1&format=2

    October 25, 2012 at 10:54 pm in reply to: Building PA Question – First Time #30797
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    Hee Won Jung, post: 30947, member: 948 wrote: Mackie Monitors are freakin Kick ASS…IMO they are the best bang for the buck. The Subs on the other hand are pretty bad imo.

    I make it a point to never buy anything for Behringer.

    The Equipment rental place the I rented speakers from rent me a pair of Behringers and they were ok. They had two other brands but they claim all of theirs were about the same. The Mackie Thumps aren’t much more. I’m going to try and listnen to them somewhere before I buy.

    Thanks for your help.

    October 25, 2012 at 9:59 pm in reply to: Building PA Question – First Time #30789
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    Hee Won Jung, post: 30935, member: 948 wrote: I call anything that is not a Bassbin a Monitor…so in essence you are doing exactly option #2 without a bassbin 😀

    Its always a good thing to have both left and right speakers as a lot of songs have panning and you can only hear coming out of 1 side of the pan, unless you are in mono and you would hear the panning effect at all.

    Thanks. I’m looking at the Behringer and the Mackies. I’ve used the Behringers and they sound pretty good. However, some say the Mackies are better. Do you have an opinion on these?

    October 25, 2012 at 9:50 pm in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #30786
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    Hee Won Jung, post: 30936, member: 948 wrote: RCA to XLR i would only use in a no other option scenario…and if you have to keep the cord the shortest possible distance.

    RCA will degrade after 4ft(RCA to RCA) but from my limited usage i have gone up to 10ft without any real noticable sound difference.

    Dont cheap out on cables, and always ALWAYS have backups.

    My controller only has RCA outputs. So, what are my options other than going from RCA to XLR. Would it be any different if I convert to 1/4″ TRS? I dont have a mixer. Im running directly from the controller to the powered speakers which have both XLR and TRS inputs.

    October 25, 2012 at 7:25 pm in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #30776
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    Kent Sandvik, post: 30929, member: 3967 wrote: There are *balanced* TSR to XLR cables. And S4 has balanced outputs. Just make sure you get the right male or female connectors for the XLR side.

    I’m limited to the RCA Outputs of the Mixtrack Pro. I think I’m going to search for a better quality RCA to XLR.

    October 25, 2012 at 7:16 pm in reply to: Building PA Question – First Time #30771
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    I think I’m using the LITE version of your Option 2 because I don’t use minitors in between. I go straight from the controller to the 15″ Powered Speaker. In the Restaurant/Bar I currently play, I really on need one 15″ Powered speaker for the room. However, I’m thinking about adding a second just to have a Left and a Right.

    October 25, 2012 at 7:05 pm in reply to: Balanced Cables – TRS to XLR #30769
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    Let me ask you this. I ordered a RCA (unbalanced right?) to XLR cable (balanced) from eBay. Very cheap price. Would you say I’m probably degrading the quality of my output? Perhaps I should a order a better quality cable? I’m runnin this cable from a Mixtrack Pro to a 15″ Powered Speaker.

    October 23, 2012 at 9:39 pm in reply to: 1st Verse, Chorus, Mix, Rinse, Repeat #30653
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    daltonb850, post: 30205, member: 2822 wrote: Mixing dubstep, dnb, and other EDM genres, I fall into this trap as well. I’m pretty much in this formula of playing a song, starting the other song and overlapping it so that the ‘drop’ is at the break (I use my waveforms and kinda measure out the timing in my head), and fade or filter/other effect as necessary once the break of the first song and drop of the new song comes in. Sometimes I have cue points for my songs to make them shorter so that I can skip the break completely. The reason I do this is because it seems like people get really bored of songs really quick in these genres. I have to keep popping on new tracks or I feel like I’m not doing anything, just playing music, and I will surely lose my crowd if I play a song to the end.

    When I first started (not but just a few months ago), I would make House and Electro mixes to post online. I didn’t follow this formula at all, I would transition near the end of the song. I think it has a lot to do with your crowd and playing live.

    Its tricky because some songs, there are certain verses that make the song popular. If its rap, and you have 3 rappers on the track, you have to possibly decide who will make the cut or will you drag the song out and let all 3 drop there hot 16 bars in your mix. Or, if its an R&B jam with a guest rapper, sometimes the rap part is towards the end after the vocalist has sung 2 verses and 2 choruses. You get my drift. Hell, some R&B jams will start off with the rap part up front and then drop you in to the singing parts.

    It really helps to know your music in R&B and Hip-Hop. I’ve learned that in a very short amount of time. My problem is that I love the music and lyrics so much sometimes that I hate to cut out to the next track. I mean, how do you chop a classic Notorious B.I.G.? You will mess up the flow and get some agry looks if you break from some songs too soon.

    I have to admit, this is what makes the DJ’ing fun for me. its what makes me look forward to getting off work and shooting home to fire up the Laptop and Controller and just start jamming.

    October 23, 2012 at 9:29 pm in reply to: 1st Verse, Chorus, Mix, Rinse, Repeat #30650
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    gbadegesin, post: 29970, member: 1507 wrote: BigSyd,
    I guess i fall into the urban DJ category.
    This is a very common and ‘safe’ way to mix urban music. Most DJ’s tend to mix either at the first or second chorus. This to me, can sometimes comes across as very predictable but i admit it does flow well.
    I personally have a habit of using different parts of the song to mix just to give a bit of variety.
    When i advise new DJs to start to mix, i always tell them to start with the method you mentioned

    I’m going to take that advice as a newbie.

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