B.B. Koning
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September 9, 2013 at 10:14 am in reply to: Help needed setting up macbook w/ Traktor & Soundflower (please) #43932
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ParticipantTerry_42, post: 44052, member: 1843 wrote: Exactly you cannot do both at the same time, soundflower is not made to do that. (I like soundflower, it is a neat program especially for broadcasting, but not in the way you try to do it.)
There has to be enough hardware devices to route things to. Why I said only an external soundcard will work (even a cheapish “iMic” – USB) as you could route traktor to that sound card use the traktor cable to split output and headphones and route skype to the internal sound card. So both would use 2 different devices and there would be no “cross traffic” and no speaking over your mix. However this you can easily do by using Skype and Traktors built in setups. You would only need soundflower if you do not use Traktors built in broadcasting, but want to split to Icecast or something similar.
Thank you, Terry. I appreciate both you and Steve’s input very much. I am a PC guy by trade, and my friend just bought a mac. Although I can navigate a mac on a basic level, this was really screwing me up. I can get them to use Icecast within Traktor, but they were also considering using BUTT. At any rate, thanks guys. Big ups and respect.
September 8, 2013 at 7:02 am in reply to: Help needed setting up macbook w/ Traktor & Soundflower (please) #43888B.B. Koning
ParticipantSteve (k-rex) Richman, post: 44039, member: 12411 wrote: Greetings, B.B. It would help if you could give a more detailed explanation of what you’re trying to accomplish, but here goes anyway. Soundflower is a very cool little audio routing program, but agree with T. that it probably won’t do what you want. The main issue is that to both cue in headphones and output to master, you need two distinct output destinations. With your current setup, there’s only one (aggregate device, built in output). This isn’t because of Soundflower, you need another output device. Like T said, sound card is prolly best, but what should also work is the DJ Cable from Traktor. Send monitor to ‘phones, main to built in output. But you have another issue – it seems you want to use the system mic, and this is problematic with Soundflower. Notice that it monitors line in and mic – this means system alerts, skype, etc are going to show up in your audio input. So you have to shut all that stuff down, and this is probably one of the reasons T calls it bogus 🙂
And, if you’re trying to do a quality podcast/streamcast, built in mic isn’t going to serve you well.
Hi Steve:
Thank you very much for this! This is the kind of help I needed exactly! As luck would have it, the Traktor DJ cable has been ordered, since Traktor’s Ios app is also something that will be eventually used with the Ipad.
What I was essentially trying to do was assist a friend DJing while they stream to a site. We wanted to be able to talk to one another via Skype (without it playing with the mix) while they still had the ability to cue and output the master. I am assuming this might not be possible to do both at the same time?
So in Traktor’s output routing/sound card settings, that DJ cable will allow me to select one side for headphones and one for master audio via the built in output without an issue then?
Since they do not have any sort of speakers other than their built in output on the macbook, we will have to go that route.
Your explanation is very concise, and I appreciate it. It’s only a matter now of routing everything correctly, and S-canning Soundflower (we already uninstalled it).
Thanks for your time.
September 8, 2013 at 2:07 am in reply to: Help needed setting up macbook w/ Traktor & Soundflower (please) #43879B.B. Koning
ParticipantTerry_42, post: 44023, member: 1843 wrote: What you are trying to do is impossible without an external sound card. Using soundflower is bogus.
Bogus as in impossible, or bogus as in you just don’t like it?
September 5, 2013 at 11:26 am in reply to: Help choosing/setting up windows sound card for friend (please) #43818B.B. Koning
ParticipantGot it. Cheapest way seems to be buy an external sound card for PCs. Then go with a new cable that Traktor put out for Traktor 2 and IOS. Which is very fucking cool.
If anybody is curious about that cable, here’s the link:
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ParticipantIt made my eyes and ears bleed.
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ParticipantThis has been my biggest issue for years.
Since my ‘day job’ has more or less been a graveyard job, one would think that it would have been a more natural progression. However, this has not been the case.
Invariably, there is always something to do (family, friends, errands) that have to be accomplished during the odd hours of the day where you are used to sleeping. And oftentimes that includes ‘swinging’ hours on the fly. This causes many speed freak (minus the speed) days of 24-36 hour days, followed by 12 or more hours of sleep after the ‘crash’.
Noisy neighbors and paper thin walls have not helped matters, but, as Chuck says, earplugs are a Godsend.
From a dietary perspective, being a semi ‘health nut’ that doesn’t smoke tobacco or drink alcohol might offset the damage, but honestly, as I get longer in the tooth, I worry about the lifestyle taking its toll.
I think that the guys above have it nailed. The key is vigilance.
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ParticipantThanks.
Hopefully I will not have to use the headphones very often. Unfortunately, with the schedule being what it is, there will be times (much like when making DJ mixes) I will have to use them. I will save the tinkering and idea stage for this, then, and use the field monitors for the mastering/mixing.
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ParticipantThanks again for the advice.
My current headphones are more or less standard style for general use.
The impedance is 40 and the frequency response is 20Hz-20kHz.
On the other hand, I do have some ER 4P IEMs, which I find to be VERY flat. And I mean that in a good way. They are just under the ER 4s models. Fantastic in ear monitor/buds. Sadly, there is a slight short in the right channel, so I will have to get them repaired.
Their bigger brother, the ER 4S, are actually designed specifically for that purpose, and I would say these are damned close do to the flat across the board sound I hear from them.
20Hz to 16Khz +/- 4db.
Thanks again.
That being said, that might be the best overall choice here.
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ParticipantThank you guys. I really appreciate your detailed and expert advice!
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ParticipantI suppose I could kick down a little more dough for a shure 57. On the condenser side of things, the
MXL V67Gis recommended for a low cost option that deals mainly with vocals.
Ideally I would like something for all ’round use for later on.
June 11, 2013 at 4:30 am in reply to: Best in budget: Yamaha HS50, KRK Rokit 5, or something similar #41218B.B. Koning
Participantdjmdubs, post: 41372, member: 2813 wrote: I agree with Chuck here. I have the rokkit 5’s and they sound great but lacked punch so I added the rokkit 10s and now they are a perfect setup for me.
I wish the 10s were in my budget frame. Since I can get a new pair of G2 5’s for 250 right now, I think I’ll consider going this route to start, and put some egg foam or mats underneath them.
Do you have a preference for a good starter keyboard? M Audio is usually what people recommend, but I’m thinking of getting a low end keyboard to help learn chords and such that could double as a midi controller.
I value all opinions.
June 10, 2013 at 10:52 pm in reply to: Best in budget: Yamaha HS50, KRK Rokit 5, or something similar #41210B.B. Koning
ParticipantYou are correct. I do not have dimmer packs on my desk. My ‘desk’ is essentially a very sturdy wooden plank on top of some filing cabinets. It supports my CDJS and 6000 with flight cases, laptop, computer speakers, et. al without issue, so adding the monitors probably won’t be an issue.
I own XLR and TRS cables that have sufficient length, and some standard high quality RCA cables as well. I also have adapters that convert to RCA to single jack to fit in a computer’s line/mic inputs.
So perhaps I’ll just do as you suggest and route via the 6000. The Audio 4 has 24bit, but I have no issues with how the sound has come out of my 6000 when DJing. And the balanced monitoring of everything certainly wouldn’t hurt matters.
The 6000 would be one more piece to the puzzle that would always have to be present, but I suppose it usually is on my desk anyways.
Thanks again.
June 10, 2013 at 8:47 pm in reply to: Best in budget: Yamaha HS50, KRK Rokit 5, or something similar #41201B.B. Koning
ParticipantChuck van Eekelen, post: 41353, member: 2756 wrote: I can see how you’d want the best quality for the available budget, but why not back breaking? Or is that your financial back you are worried about?
I have a set of KRK Rokit 5’s. They are pretty good (I use them for home studio work), but a tad lacking in the low’s. The 6’s are already better in that respect, or you could get the matching KRK sub.
At the end of the day it’s a personal choice, so try to do some A/B comparisons with your own music or productions if you can before deciding.Everybody here will have an opinion and they are all right. The good news is though that for that kind of budget it’s not a really big pond to fish in.
One thing I’d like to stress here is that you need to set up your monitor speakers so the high end drivers are aimed directly at your ears, preferably from slightly higher. You should be one of the three corners of the triangle made up of you and the two speakers. Everything should be equidistant, i.e. the distance between the two speakers and between of the speakers and the middle of your head should be equal. Since the distance from your screen will be a determining factor, you’ll probably end up with a distance of 4 to 5 feet between the speakers and your head.
Also you don’t want the speakers to produce any sounds that are not supposed to be there. So get good, freestanding, pedestals (made for monitor speakers) that are heavy/solid enough not to add any vibrations. Finally stick some auralex or other acoustic foam under them to decouple the bass somewhat.
Greetinx,
C.Dank u wel, Chuck. The first part is a very Dutch answer. My financial back was what I was referring to, but not breaking the physical one is also a good thing too!
I have extremely limited space to work with, but I can place the monitors in triangle style setup at ear level on my desk. Hopefully it will support some stands, but at the very least, acoustic foam or auralex sounds like a fine idea.
All I have is a lowly Audio 4 card to work with right now (which obviously does not support the balanced cables) but if you have any suggestions for a better card on a reasonable budget, I’m all ears.
I suppose I could run everything through my MC6000, but that would complicate things unnecessarily I think.
Thanks again!
mvg,
B.B.
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ParticipantAlex Wray, post: 39458, member: 4521 wrote: And thats the beauty of it. You just check the box, iTunes can sort your entire collection by artist, then you just set Traktor to read from the overall iTunes Media File, and presto, whenever you load traktor, new songs add to the collection, plus all your crates as well
So it’s possible to do this without actually copying all these tracks into the music folder in itunes then? Strictly the media file? Awesome.
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ParticipantThanks for the reply.
I only use itunes to build playlists at the moment. I do not have any music folder configured in itunes at all. I just point the playlists, just like I do in Traktor, to the file folder that they are located in.
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