Casey Condo
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ParticipantOn the sub on aux out, I wanted to be able to control the output of the sub separately from the volume of the mains so I could control the amount of bass on a per song basis. The sub I found is full range so I now have the Eq on the six only with everything past 250hz all the way down.
I am going to use an RTA later today to see what range everything is playing. The QSC subs also have the ability to do remote gain so I might just get a remote gain switch to control sub output there.
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ParticipantI decided to go to guitR center and a/b the QSC K12 and the ev ekx-12p speakers. I also listened to the ev ekx-18p subwoofer which is roughly the same size as the QSC kw181. Both myself and the guitar center employee thought the Ev mains sounded better. I had to pull the gain down on EV just to avoid the volume change as they have 50% more power but even then they sounded cleaner with better separation especially in the mids and highs.
I also liked the look of the EV speakers better as they didn’t have the screws that held the grills in place visible on the front.
With all of that I still ended up purchasing the QSC speakers. The guy at GC said it is still what he would purchas. He said all of GC only rents out QSC and I know another place here in memphis does the same. Between knowing that and the 6 year warranty is what pushed me towards them. If EV had a 4 or 5 year warranty I would have purchased them instead.
That all being said I hooked up everything tonight and all I can say is wow. The 12s themselves in deep mode have plenty of bass. I have the 181 running by itself off the monitor fader on the mixer so I can turn it up and down separately from the mains. In my theatre room with the 12s in deep mode, some music doesn’t even need the 181.
If you guys were playing in a room small enough where you didn’t need to push any of the speakers real hard would you recommend running the 12s in deep mode and running the sub, run them in normal mode, or run them crossed over?
Also if I am going monitor out into the sub which would be full signal do you guys know if the 181 has a low pass filter already or do I need to ru. It through a crossover first? I also have an Eq I could turn down all the signals over 250hz etc.
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ParticipantBob – I appreciate the response. I kind of have been thinking to just avoid the ultranet stuff in terms of my decision. I know the QSC speakers seem to be the standard for rental houses, etc. and they seem to be extremely reliable.
I do have concerns that the 8’s wouldn’t be able to keep up with two 15s or a single 18 if the sub was pushed hard. Because of this I am considering a completely different brand. It doesn’t mean I have to go with something different but it is an option since I only own 1 speaker at this point.
If I look at the price difference between:
2 TurboSound IQ12, and 2 Turbro Sound 18s (or 15s they are pretty much the same price) I am at $2,700
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2 QSC K12s, and 1 KW181 Subwoofer for $3,000, BUT if I wanted two subs I would be at $4,400.
I wished QSC had other subwoofer options like a single 15″ etc.
I might also consider an EV setup with two 12″ mains, and two 15″ subwoofers, etc.
On another note do you thin two KSUBs would outperform a single KW181?
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