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  • #2414051
    HETTO
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    Hi, thanks for sharing! I’ve archived it for a later read.

    Do you happen to know about live streaming audio with HD video over 4G with a 4G modem?
    Any good links to ‘how to’s’ of software add-ons maybe?
    I get mixed answers and find many diverse stuff online, like a $600 converter box that is supposed to ‘stabalize’
    the variable speed received from the network. Lot’s of ppl say 4G won’t cut it, because it’s not designed for realtime video, but other say it can be done including a friend of mine who is an AV specialist and is helping me out saturday.
    I live in a rural area with a crap ADSL line. There’s a great chance i will have a fiber connection in a year or 15 months, which is great, but won’t help me in the meantime.
    My best shot is a 4G modem. I ordered one with an antenna (sort of booster, outside the house) and a 100 GB data bundle (upgradable to 200) and i will get that in a month/ 6 weeks.
    My only other possibility (afaik) is a satellite internet connection. This has quite a few disadvantages and is VERY expensive..

    Cheers!

    #2414061
    HETTO
    Participant

    Oh, and +1 for helping people and advocating audio quality! 100% with you there (buying aiff’s too, for example)

    #2414121
    SinthesisML
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    you’re welcome! i’m hope you find it useful.

    as far as video/audio streaming over 4G, there are many factors.

    Lets do some quick math…

    Assume 4G upload speeds are on average 10Mbps. Depending on your video if its 720p or 1080p, youre looking between 5-20Mbps. Add on top of that a nice stereo audio interface (24bit, 48kHz) that streams 2.3Mbps. So make sure the sum of these two bit rates is less than your services upload speed. I don’t think you need a converter since many HD formats are below 7.7Mbps (10Mbps – 2.3Mbps).

    #2414151
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    I don’t know much about streaming but I am wondering why someone would want to use 24-bit 48KHz audio when 16-bit 44.1KHz is CD-quality and much less bandwidth demanding.

    #2414171
    SinthesisML
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    for play back, 24/48 vs 16/44.1 is no differences. however, when you want to master audio 24/48 is probably best since DSPs for this are band-limited. it leaves for more headroom at the edges. some, although very few, humans have been known to hear up to 28kHz, so 48 is a good medium just in case.

    #2414201
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Not many playback devices that go beyond CD-quality sound cards, so upon receipt of the stream it will simply be “translated” into 16/44.1, losing whatever edge you had while mastering.

    Also, it depends on your source. If your tracks are made by you in a DAW, you might have 24/48 source material (although I’d hope you would have 24/96 resolution to work with), but if you use regular tracks, none of them will be any higher than 16/44.1.

    And even if you master your own tracks, which you created in 24/48 or 24/96 (which is great as you have the extra frequency range and headroom while manipulating your sound in your DAW), it’s common and best practice to “bounce” (=convert) your tracks to CD-quality before publication. One of the advantages is that your DAW most likely has better bouncing tools than if you leave the conversion to the playback end. Going from 24 to 16 and from 96/48 to 44.1 inevitably means that some things get lost. The better the conversion the better the result. So I would always advise people to work with that standard outside their own production environment, being 16/44.1.

    I have never heard of people hearing up to 28KHz, 20KHz being the accepted maximum at the high end and that only baby’s and infants usually have that range. Not saying such people don’t exist but they would be such an anomaly to not warrant the extra quality for the other 99.99% that probably stops short of 18KHz. Getting technical here, the reason they made 44.1 the standard for audio tracks is that they found out that you needed at least twice the audible frequency range in order to get things to sound good (I’ll leave THAT technical explanation out of this post lol). For video (DVD) purposes they lifted that to 48KHz. Following the at least twice rule, for someone with a 28KHz upper limit, you’d have to record in 60KHz or more, meaning 96KHz, so your 48KHz would still fall short.

    Just my two cents. Again, I know diddly about streaming, so, good post guys!

    #2414971
    HETTO
    Participant

    Thanks for the reply @Alexander!

    #2415611
    SinthesisML
    Participant

    yes we are saying exactly the same thing; although 24b/48kHz may be good for mastering, we all end up with 16b/44.1kHz in the real world.

    #2415651
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    😀

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