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DJ Hessler, post: 14615, member: 537 wrote: Then tell me one Top 100 DJ that uses 100% software and controller and not CDJs/Vinyl?

The big guys has not joined “the dark side” not yet anyway so there is still hope 😉

I thought Porter Robinson just rocked the S4, but I could be wrong…
Your point is still clear and valid…I was actually just trying to think.

Sync is easily justified if you are using your ‘beatmatch time’ for another activity. Even then, I know I personally don’t care how the DJ does it, I came to enjoy the music, not to stare at someone doing their job.

So yes, I use sync at times, but more often than not, I’ll just adjust the BPM read-out to match. I just don’t have the manual speed while beatmatching by ear to confidently load and drop the track on the exact phrase I had planned. Plus, I make decent use of 4 decks, so having one less thing worry about is always a plus. Last thing I want to do is rush to load a track and bump off the one I was playing by mistake because I worried about leaving enough of a window to beatmatch.

Keep in mind, I spend a great deal of time gridding, mapping and hot queuing all my tracks to the point where I know exactly how sync will perform. I’ll never run into the situation where sync does something unexpected (or if it does, I would have found out at the home studio rather than while out playing). This leaves me a lot more time to focus on something just as important as beat-matching. Crowd reading, song selection, phrasing and finding the best drop points.

One thing that confuses me about this debate. Some of you may remember the debate about vinyl and CD’s when CDJ’s started first being used, how using CD’s wasn’t real DJing and then when some CDJ’s started having beat counters, MY GOD! I remember mates of mine who had always used vinyl saying they would never use CD’s, it was selling out, that beat counters cheapened the art etc. None of them use vinyl any more unless it’s for some special night.

Traktor (although not always 100% accurate unless you do you homewrok, prepping grids etc) reads the current BPM and puts it on the screen. I mean the exact BPM to two decimal places. So what’s OK, having the BPM within one beat? Going in to preferences and changing the setting so BPM doesn’t show up at all? Or is it OK if I read the screen, adjust the tempo and then get the beats in time by ear?

Isn’t this all going to be a dead debate like the one about vinyl and CD’s once software is stable enough that it’s as reliable as using CDJ’s?

These aren’t even real questions really. Time spent on forums, unless trying to find something out, is probably best spent on finding new music, telling your wife you love her, making tea, growing peas….including mine…debate can be addictive though so feel free to respond. I’m off to go and piss on my girlfriend.

Another quick point, or more a situation. What if a person simply can’t beatmatch. They’ve tried and tried but out of sync music just sounds like a mess in their ears and makes no sense. However, when it’s in sync, the person knows what sounds good together and what doesn’t. They also tick all the other gripe boxes like knowing their history, they’re humble etc…and now because of the sync button they’re making a living from giving people a good time. For the beatmatch purists, should they quit?

atom12v, post: 14753, member: 1423 wrote: “Obviously, you’ve remained the way you are for all those years. I could care less if you were 100 , you still are the exact image of what I was speaking of with the newer generation. At least they are young, and can still be taught..and change. Where you stand today, after all these years ..is a sad example of where one can end up with the improper attitude”

“I got the point..today’s generation of wanna bes lack what we had..I’ve ranted before , not going at it all over again now. Can sum it (them) up with three words “lazy, misguided, egotistical””

“It’s an insult and a joke when someone has the audacity to over simplify , and take the passion out of what my generation, and those before me worked our asses off to build. There is no meaning left in ti what so ever, no message. The only concern I see from today’s wanna be DJ’s , is for themselves.”

Any of this sound familiar. Yes all your replies

Read my original post, I don’t call anybody wanna be dj’s, I don’t try change anybody, I don’t judge any dj for what they use. That’s the beauty of this, everybody is entitle to there choice. You choose turntable, I choose controllers

Are you angry at me because I’ve been doing this longer than you have been alive, or because;

I have use everything from turntable, reel to reel (you can google it to see what it is), cdj’s and controllers and I make the later my choice, or because;

I can beatmatch 3 turtables manually, and I mean manually no fader, or because:

It took you over a year to beatmatch and my 6 year old granddaughter did it in a few months.

What ever your reason, keep it to yourself. I don’t need to know.

Not angry at ya , never said I was . Again never said I have in issue with what medium uses either. And as far as you go personally, it’s your attitude ..which again you’ve made obvious in your reply. Attempting to highlight your skill in an online thread in such a strong way. And at the same time bringing my knowledge of things (reel to reel) into question, to put yourself up higher just proves my point. Plenty have people are reading the back and fourth, and I’m sure it’s clear who is angry and has issues.

Fair one Sumir, nicely put.

@Atom12v. I can see the chip on your shoulder from here. Presumably your reference to the guys ‘with 2 pieces of static noise making vinyl’ was you some years ago, harking back on the past? Either way, it’s irrelevant, your granddaughter however should probably be on youtube. Unless of course her skills and success as a DJ make her become bitter and angry, that would be a poor turn up after all.

HELL YEAH ICEMAN!