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  • #2201291
    Jedisinclair13
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    That’s a question only you can really answer. What are your needs for a controller? A lot of guys are all about 4 decks. I am a Wedding DJ and I do small-medium sized gigs and I actually prefer two decks. I own the XDJ-RX and I LOVE it. Would I upgrade to something else? That’s hard to say. It would depend on what features a newer piece of gear would offer. If it’s four decks, I wouldn’t spend the extra money, but again, that’s me.

    #2201341
    DJ Vintage
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    As for information about what companies are launching … not happening. They’d shoot themselves in the commercial foot that way. They’ll announce it shortly before it becomes available.

    #2201511
    Todd Oddity
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    As others have said, a lot of it comes down to personal preference, BUT if you can afford the 1000’s and a mixer over the RX, you’d be getting a modular system with much more flexibility and future proofing. The trade off of course is that it would also be a lot larger and heavier should you be trying to take it on the road.

    #2201721
    DJ Vintage
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    2x 1000s @ 2000 bucks, DJM900 at 1900. Total amount close to 4000 bucks. Very close to THREE times the money spent on the RX.

    Regardless of the fact that I personally don’t see that more flexibility and future proofing that much, that is an extremely high bonus to pay for these perceived advantages, to the point that I would scratch behind my ears if someone committed his funds that way (even if those funds were unlimited).

    The difference in price will also get you are very decent PA for example, which would make lots more sense.

    The 2 vs 4 channel discussion is highly dependent on what it is you want to achieve. If you actually want to mix on 4 decks simultaneously, then yes, you’d want the 4 channel option. If you need the 3rd and 4th channel to be able to hook up “other” devices like CDJs or something and be able to switch between software decks and external gear, that can be done with the RX easily.

    Onboard touch screen is still uncommon, even on laptops. And for an onboard touch screen to be effective it would have to have a certain size (bigger than that on current devices imho). However the RX does or will support (mini) USB-keyboard I think. Which would solve that problem.

    And although I haven’t tried yet, I am assuming (like all RekordBox enabled gear from Pioneer) that you can hook up your laptop or iPad ! and put it to the side just for searching. That would give you 7 or 10″ iPad touchscreen keyboard or laptop keyboard.

    #2202201
    Jason Ross
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    I just got one a few days ago, and after several false starts and misfires (lets all just firget about the ergo shall we), Pioneer have absolutely knocked it out of the park into another county. I think Pioneer actually did the best thing by not trying to get in on the controller action on the heels of Traktor and Serato and plow their own route. You CAN actually download a Traktor TSI officially from Pioneer website, but as yet there is no advanced HID and the thoroughly re-enigineered from ground up rekordbox 3 is awesome, using Pro-Link to connect direct to your laptop just to access the library. Whether you like Pioneer or not I think they are still doing a fantastic job of remaining relevant, and this unit for the money is beyond superb.

    #2202651
    Johan Van Ede
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    Thank you all for this helpful feedback!
    I already was quite convinced to buy the RX, that only increased.

    Jedisinclair13, the price indeed is already a very good reason to buy the RX over the 1000,
    and as DJ Vintage says (I already feared that) makes good sense not to say it in advance.
    Todd Oddity you make a valid point too as I am taking it on the road, not too often but I do.
    My current VMS with flightcase is quite heavy ~20kg) and the RX with flightcase is even a bit heavier.
    So taking the 1000’s with me makes no sense considering the small advantages over the RX.
    Now, Jason Ross, I’m actually very curious what your experience is when using Pro-Link to search a huge database on your laptop.
    I love Rekordbox too, but some people state that using the one rotating knob to search a big library is a down side…
    Have you tried that, and what is your opinion on this one?

    #2202941
    Jason Ross
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    I have a MAcbook Pro retina, so no bloody ethernet! Am waiting right now for a thunderbolt to ethernet adapter so I can try prolink but havent had a chance to use it yet. I am really hoping though that you can still search via the unit’s screen and not be limited to only using the laptop screen as TBH my whole point of getting into Rekordbox is to get back onto a standalone DJ platform and away from the laptop and the laptop’s screen, so I am more than happy with Rekordbox enabled USB sticks as the file source right now.

    I think the complaint about a single knob as a search problem is probably utter bunk and just people looking for problems… what do they want a mouse? Then stick to a laptop! Since I stepped away from CDJs and went digital I have been using Denon MC3000 & 6000s with Traktor (superb controllers by the way, built like tanks), and they use a single search wheel which is more than sufficient if you have your library well organised. If you can’t use a single rotating knob (with push) and a simple back button to search your library then again… stay on a laptop! (obviously I don’t mean you personally but any of us). There are two schools here really aren’t there. Those who think you should prepare a ‘crate’ beforehand, and those that want to have access to every track they own. While its nice to be able to be spontaneous and play THAT track when inspiration strikes and yes it is more convenient to use a keyboard for this, Rekordbox does have an option to input letters via the wheel so you can do a search which I think is a great function considering the entire raison d’etre of the unit is to get the DJ away from the laptop (or at least the laptop screen). For me it comes down to this, if you want to use Traktor and a large screen this may not be the BEST controller, although of course it does have an excellent Traktor TSI file for it (I haven’t tried it yet myself but my understanding is functionality is excellent you just don’t get to use the inbuilt screen), or you want to step away from the screen and use a modernised very digital friendly evolution of the ‘traditional pioneer club workflow’. Of course Pioneer may in the future offer full HID support for Traktor on this unit as do the NXS CDJ900s/2000s & NXS DJMs which would truly be the best of both worlds! Just my two cents.

    #2203471
    Johan Van Ede
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    Thank you for your opinion, as for the Ethernet cable, I hope it will work soon for you.
    For me, I’m using windows so no problems there, and I share your opinion completely.
    I’m (going to be) using my RX for 2 purposes, ‘digital dance DJ’ and ‘wedding DJ’.
    The first digital dance DJ is why I want the RX so bad, get fully integrated in the Rekordbox workflow, the knobs, effects everything! Here I’ll be playing with only usbs and that it, brilliant!

    However the Wedding DJ ‘part of me’ was slightly concerned by the (not so poor after all) search options.
    The Mixtrack had a rotating knob wich indeed worked quite nice though I never really used it a lot.
    The search function of the VMS controller itself is as bad as it will ever get, a very tiny touch pad.
    You could move 2cm on your screen when fully from left to right, and the deck load ‘buttons’ were touch too but never worked…
    As a result of that, I always used mouse and keyboard ever since.

    To cut a long story short, this or next week I’ll be heading to a store to try out the RX for both purposes.
    Now I have a very clear vision on how things work, what is possible and what is not.

    So, thank you all for replying!

    #2203491
    Jason Ross
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    My USB3 ehternet adapter arrived this morning, so I shall be testing the ProLink + laptop this weekend, I shall report back to you! 🙂

    #2204191
    Jason Ross
    Participant

    All I can say is…. wow. Pioneer have knocked this one so far out of the park it’s crazy. Prolink works like a dream, and even better you CANNOT as far as I can see use the laptop screen, you use the unit’s screen to search tracks, and only playlists you have saved in rekordbox show up.

    Even better though….. I have tested it in as many ways as I can in terms of ‘hot swapping’ sources from non rekordbox created flash drives, rekordbox created flash, Laptops via ProLink, AND Traktor, and you can seamlessly hot swap in and out every possible combination of these in the mix within seconds. A great feature indeed and previously always an issue with Traktor as its virtual ‘aggregated sound card’ always caused issues with playing decks before. This is quite simply an astounding piece of equipment for the money. Stick in a couple of CDJs or 1200s via the line/phono inputs and you literally have everything you could ever need.

    Buy it and buy it now. Unless you can afford a full CDJ/DJM NEXUS setup, you will never look back and I can’t imagine a better machine being released for some time. I think this will become quite simply THE unit to own for anyone who aspires to ‘club DJing’ or mobile DJs who want most of the functionality of the aforementioned setup for a fraction of the cost AND weight, or quite simply those that have a completely digital library, but don’t want a software/timecode solution.

    Hope these comments are in some way useful in making your decision!

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