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  • August 1, 2014 at 11:31 am #2047497
    DJ Vintage
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    Obviously, when manually beatmatching (think vinyl! LOL) the only option is keeping your finger on the label and speeding up/slowing down the disc. One of the reasons that pre-90s vinyl DJs knew a LOT of transitions that didn’t need lengthy transitions.

    Software like Serato and Mixvibes Cross have a pretty good beatgridding engine that can work with “hand-drummed” material. Also they allow to set stuff straight (time-consuming as it is, it beats audacity for the purpose imho).

    Another option if you have availability of Ableton Live, is to use that. Here too it’s easier to work with (warp) non-mechanical beats.

    Hope that helps a bit. Sure others will pitch in with more suggestions and tips.

    August 1, 2014 at 11:54 am #2047502
    deathy
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    Yeah, the software for automating the beat fixing all choked on it, that’s why I had to fix it by hand… the problem is, the song is so dense that the FFT used for those calculations can’t sense where the actual beat is at all times.

    August 1, 2014 at 2:19 pm #2047533
    DJ Vintage
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    I actually did an EW&F track (September if I am not mistaken) not too long ago. Only did the first 16 and last 16 beats (or perhaps 32/32), to have some good mix in/mix out points. Kept the original groove in the rest of the track (took some doing but got it).

    But that is not good for you if you want to overlay a complete new beat or something.

    August 1, 2014 at 2:19 pm #2047534
    DJ Vintage
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    I actually did an EW&F track (September if I am not mistaken) not too long ago. Only did the first 16 and last 16 beats (or perhaps 32/32), to have some good mix in/mix out points. Kept the original groove in the rest of the track (took some doing but got it).

    But that is not good for you if you want to overlay a complete new beat or something.

    August 1, 2014 at 2:19 pm #2047535
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    I actually did an EW&F track (September if I am not mistaken) not too long ago. Only did the first 16 and last 16 beats (or perhaps 32/32), to have some good mix in/mix out points. Kept the original groove in the rest of the track (took some doing but got it).

    But that is not good for you if you want to overlay a complete new beat or something.

    August 4, 2014 at 8:57 am #2047682
    Lamid45G
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    Ableton LIVE and its warping function is excellent,
    You can literally mark every beat so it stays consistent with the tempo,
    and u can always add icing by re-drum it also,

    PS Logic Pro X also have this thing called “time flex”, I hadn’t try it feature yet

    August 4, 2014 at 9:00 am #2047685
    Lamid45G
    Participant

    PS #2
    If anything else fails, you can try to find some old disco tunes from various DJ pool site online,
    I’m sure they have it somewhere all warped up, DJ friendly

    PS #3
    WTB edit button

    August 4, 2014 at 9:21 am #2047692
    deathy
    Participant

    Thanks!

    I actually came up with a mix that was TERRIBLE. I posted it, which was a mistake, but, ya know, eager blah blah blah.

    I am abandoning remixing this track for now – it’s so dense and busy that I am just having a hard time doing much with it that actually sounds any good, so I’m going to start looking at some less dense tunes for learning that style of remix.

    Agreed on the edit button!

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