Home 2023 Forums Digital DJ Gear Why is there no USB 3.0 audio interface o_O

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  • #36257
    Terry_42
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    Because the only difference in USB 2 to 3 is the speed it can transfer data and USB 2 is more than fast enough for sound devices. Eventually there will be USB 3 sound devices when USB 2 controller chips die out, but there really is no need for it, any USB 2 will do fine.

    #36260
    Goomo
    Participant

    Ahhhhh! 😀 THX

    I´ve been lokking for a new audio interface and wanna spend less than 300€. It should be an USB interface but firewire should be also okay. I want to use it for prodution. So what should I concentrate on, which features are important?

    #36263
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Also please watch the language, even in abbreviations. I edited the thread title accordingly.
    We are a quality forum and follow certain rules 😉

    #36265
    Goomo
    Participant

    Sorry :3

    #36266
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    It probably boils down to cost. Firewire is all but dead (try finding a laptop with a FW port, let alone a PC). At 450Mbps USB 2.0 is as fast (although argumentably not as stable) as FW400. USB is on a licensing scheme, i.e. you need to pay somebody money if you plan on developing a USB device. No doubt that fee is higher for 3.0 than it is for 2.0.

    So short of a great market demand, everyone is putting maybe one or two USB 3.0 ports in their systems (quite frankly the only devices really benefitting from 3.0 at current are external hard drives and how many do you want to hook up at once?) and the rest 2.0, which is plenty for just about anything else.

    I don’t expect to see any big changes in that shortly. As you correctly noticed, the new “standard” has been out for a while and has not replaced 2.0 yet.

    So, if you want a new audio device there are effectively three ways to go:

    • Firewire 400/800, although it is increasingly difficult to find machines that have a FW port and/or a card to stick in your machine to do the honors. Most “serious” brands are now putting out USB versions before FW versions, if at all.
    • USB 2.0, which should give you enough bandwidth, provided you use one single port directly on your PC (usually there are two ports connected to a single internal hub, so picking one of two and keeping the other empty will help give you the max. bandwidth).
    • There are some brands that have sound cards that you stick into your PC and that have a breakout box for all your inputs/outputs. Proprietary hardware that doesn’t use either FW or USB, but talks directly to the computers internal busses (EMU for example).

    Last word, most of the more (semi)professional sound cards will have a number of inputs as they are mostly geared towards recording/home studio use. So unless you stick with a specific DJ brand you’ll get (more) inputs you won’t be using.
    Greetinx,
    C.

    #36268
    Goomo
    Participant

    Okay! THX for the answer.

    I´m now using a Yamaha audiogram 3 usb audio interface together with this laptop:
    http://www.notebookinfo.de/produkte/hp-pavilion-dv6-6b56eg-entertainment-notebook-a6p78ea/a6p78ea-abd/00009543/
    And when I´m producing and I hit the play button the sound is stumbling… Is this in cause of my laptop or my audio device?

    #36273
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    What exactly do you mean by stumbling? Is there a delay in the sound starting to come out, is the audio signal breaking up (stuttering) or is there a latency issue?

    It’s an awesome laptop, so no, I doubt the issue would be there. Possible causes to look into then are:

    • driver, make sure you have the latest driver for the Yamaha installed (alternatively you could try asio4all driver)
    • firmware, make sure you have the latest firmware for the Yamaha
    • settings (especially buffer settings can make a difference in latency

    I just checked the specs for the Yamaha and it says it is USB 1.1 ! Try to get your hands on a USB 2.0 sound card (any really) and see if you have the same problems. Not saying this IS the problem, but it is something to look into. Finally be sure to set (if possible) the formats you use in Ableton to the same as the interface (16-bit/44.1KHz) just to see if that helps the issue.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #36321
    Goomo
    Participant

    Its more stuttering, no delay no latencys… Today I try your tip with the formats 😉

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