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    Sambhav Puri
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    As humans we are naturally competitive creatures. We also see everything through our own lens and not the other DJ’s. For all you know that guy could have not been the real DJ and had to fill in last minute for the actual DJ that night.

    It could have been his very first gig. It’s easy to judge other DJ’s but remember that we all had to start somewhere.

    Also our expectations of an art increases once we’ve done the art ourselves. You may not have tried to pay attention to things like beatmixing and where he was getting his music from if you were not a DJ yourself. Your focus might have been more attuned towards what actual songs he was playing rather than how he mixed them or where he was getting them from.

    Hope this helps.

    #2355721
    Dennis Parrott
    Participant

    Sambhav – you sound like you are quoting me!

    I have not been shy about saying (usually in the comments of an article) that the dancers simply DO NOT CARE about most of what we consider “good DJing”. We can beatmatch ourselves silly and unless we are playing music that the crowd wants to hear and dance to, it means NOTHING.

    It is a rare crowd that has “refined” enough musical tastes to be able to lock in on a DJ that provides a fine musical journey through music you have not heard, that gets you dancing and that is DJ’ed to perfection. Most crowds only know what they hear on the radio and most “serious” DJs will consider that to be total garbage.

    I understand Elliot’s concern though. Cribbing mixes off of YouTube or some other streaming site is cheating, pure and simple. Such behavior should be politely but firmly discouraged. We should challenge the offender to “up their game”.

    However, I am also a fan of hockey and hockey has taught me that things will even out over the long term. Hockey refs in North America tend to want to “even out” the penalties. In the short run it means that a team that doesn’t deserve to benefit from the penalty will get undeserved opportunities. Over the long haul, things do even out.

    The same rule holds for DJing. He might be getting that one gig but sooner or later his lack of commitment to the art will betray him and he won’t be getting gigs. Somewhere recently I saw an article (damn, I can’t remember where!) about a DJ getting a serious interrogation from a potential client because the last guy he hired did nothing more than play a Spotify list! …and this was a backyard barbeque kind of gig!!! There is hope that the light at the end of this tunnel is not an oncoming train…

    I think we as a community need to help everyone who is not a DJ understand what a DJ does, how they do it and so on. If people who come to clubs and parties understood better what we do they might appreciate the art form more and trust us to play “better music”. If the people who hire us understood better what we do they might be influenced to hire “real DJs” (note: “real” implies that you are actually mixing music — not playing Spotify lists or cribbing mixes off of the Internet) instead of guys like Elliot’s cheater.

    Here’s the thing though. It is one thing to carp about this bad behavior. In one sense it is okay to discuss it. But I have come to see that, right here, right now it is up to us to be the ones that lead the change. We carp about this to each other and the Internet as if we were asking some elite being to lead us to DJing nerdvana. The truth is we are that elite being, all of us together who feel like this need to come together and lead the change.

    There is NO DOUBT in my mind that if we came together and said as one to the world “we hold these truths about DJing and so should you” that we could begin moving hearts and minds in what we think is the right direction. Perhaps the musical journey is only half the battle — maybe we need to lead our community on an educational journey as well?

    #2355811
    Roh Furtado
    Participant

    I totally agree with everyone here

    Well i really try to respect everyone’s work and try to keep my opinions to myself but sometimes it is impossible , for example : last week i was at a wedding and a “famous” “Dj” of my city was playing there , the guy was simple playing the musics without matching them and sometimes he would just stop the music and put another one like with no mixing at all , i thought he was having idk a bad day or technical problems , because that could happen to me and as humans we can make mistakes but then i asked to some people that went to some places he played before if he was playing always like that…. the answer was YES.

    Then i got confused about the fact that some people were calling him as a good dj there and really mad at the fact he is earning a lot of money when others that i know here can do 20x times better and people want them to play for free.But as we know to be a Dj is not only having a good technique, a good song list but contacts , nice look and etc.

    #2355831
    Elliott Kim
    Participant

    Yes, yes and yes. I’m a huge hockey fan.

    Both of you have valid points. I will forgive any DJ for not beat matching. Heck, it’s better to not beatmatch than it is to try and fail miserably. Besides, in the name of “mixing” we should be switching up our transitions too.

    Even music selection is forgivable due to its totally subjective nature.

    But stealing music is just plain wrong. Besides, high quality files played through a decent sound system just thumps harder, and what DJ wouldn’t want that?

    #2357511
    Lamid45G
    Participant

    As a wedding DJ, mixing its not really your first priority

    #2357721
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    “Why is it so hard to say nice things” … Yeah Rizki, you are the perfect person to answer that one! 😛

    #2358951
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    The first step to saying nice things is to be humble, to know your own abilities and shortcommings… then you will look at other people with more respectful eyes.
    The second step is to not get angry or jealous (aka why is he up there and not me). As anger leads to the dark side…

    #2359461
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Terry … I am your father … LOL

    #2359581
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Vintage if you were you would have sent me that MCX 8000 already…

    #2359621
    Clifford Anderson
    Participant

    hahahahah. Dad don’t love ya THAT much… heheheheheheh

    #2360221
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    No problems, Luke. I will send you my SECOND MCX8000 …

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