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  • May 22, 2013 at 4:57 pm #40631
    Terry_42
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    • PCDJ – I think got acquired by someone and is near dead
    • Torq – was awesome but development was canceled and hence will be dead soon
    • Deckadance – very active development, I saw the latest stage at musikmesse and was impressed. I think something to look out for in the future
    • Magix Digital DJ 2 – never used no idea
    • Mixvibes (the guys from RekordBox) CrossDJ – actually latest version pretty good, very Traktor’ish and even some features that are similar to remix decks. But I do not like the overall workflow that much (but same goes for Traktor)
    • Alcatech BPM Studio Pro – no idea
    • Jackson DJ (I know the developer got married and never heard from him again) – died due to marriage I guess
    • Mixxx – slow development, nice to try out and play around with, but still long way off
    • Ultramixer – ultra what?
    • Undoubtedly many many more – no idea of what is more…

    I guess Serato, VDJ and Traktor have the big marketshare and hence the money for development. Between the 3 it is much what your taste is. Funny Traktor is more popular in the US although german company and VDJ and Serato I see often here in Europe, especially in germany a lot of DJs I know use VDJ.
    A lot of other peeps I know convert back to Serato after noticing that remix decks are not that thing after all and after Serato finally made a very cool complete version with Serato DJ 1.2

    May 25, 2013 at 8:52 am #40721
    softcore
    Member

    I remember a time when the only known DJ software was traktor and Alcatech’s BPM Studio….lol

    May 25, 2013 at 11:07 am #40726
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    LOL … actually I think PCDJ was around way before that time and Virtual DJ is also an old hand at the game.

    Somebody should make a Wiki on the subject :-).

    Greetinx,
    C.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:48 pm #40902
    ppt
    Member

    for top 40 and electronic dance would traktor or VDJ be better? I got my feet wet in VDJ but noticed a lot of cool features and tutorials for traktor hmmm

    June 2, 2013 at 5:04 pm #40905
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    LOL, it’s an ongoing discussion here and on the blog. It’s a highly personal choice at the end of the day if you ask me. Sure, certain features might steer you in one direction or the other. But in order to truly get to know software and it’s workflow, you have to put quite a bit of prep work in it and use it for a certain amount of time. By then, the big question is: “do I really wanna start all over from scratch with different software, just because of a few different features”.

    I just asked myself this question (contemplating Serato because it does elastic beatgridding, which won’t work with any of my three setups, so would require a fourth hardware setup) and decided that I am not gonna bother. Instead I’ll prep my tracks that need elastic beatgridding outside of my DJ software (probably Ableton Live or ProTools) and not worry about it anymore.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    June 3, 2013 at 4:07 am #40921
    3rdid
    Participant

    Chuck van Eekelen, post: 41061, member: 2756 wrote: LOL, it’s an ongoing discussion here and on the blog. It’s a highly personal choice at the end of the day if you ask me. Sure, certain features might steer you in one direction or the other. But in order to truly get to know software and it’s workflow, you have to put quite a bit of prep work in it and use it for a certain amount of time. By then, the big question is: “do I really wanna start all over from scratch with different software, just because of a few different features”.

    I just asked myself this question (contemplating Serato because it does elastic beatgridding, which won’t work with any of my three setups, so would require a fourth hardware setup) and decided that I am not gonna bother. Instead I’ll prep my tracks that need elastic beatgridding outside of my DJ software (probably Ableton Live or ProTools) and not worry about it anymore.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    I’m in the same boat as you, curious to try Serato DJ but none of my gear is supported. From years of time & cash spent experimenting with different setups, I’ve built a whole new stash of retired gear including a Virtual Vinyl soundcard, an SL2 box and two Audio8DJs plus a bunch of old controllers that are now gathering dust. The elastic beatgridding is tempting… especially when considering the pain of warping thousands of tracks in Ableton. Since NI doesn’t really seem to care about DJs who spin anything other than EDM and won’t even think of making changes to their beatgrid system, I think Im gonna have to break down and grab yet another controller to see what I’m missing out on.
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    3.I.D.

    June 3, 2013 at 9:01 am #40927
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Yeah, I wouldn’t want to warp thousands of tracks in AL. Even if you can do it in 5 mins a track.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    June 4, 2013 at 2:16 pm #40973
    ppt
    Member

    lol it is hard enough as it is trying to mix properly with VDJ and to start from fresh with traktor i’m already burnt out as it is!

    Jealous though that there are some features in traktor I would LOVE in VDJ … that and there are no tutorials on youtube for VDJ as much as traktor grrrr

    whatever practice makes perfect i guess

    August 1, 2013 at 7:51 pm #42770
    dannyboyex@gmail.com
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    VDJ has been around for a looong time and the only software i had heard of for a long time in the US. Since I use the mixtrack pro (probably the most supported controller ever) ive tried all three of the “Big 3” and like 3rdid said, Traktor is pretty much solely EDM focused and overwhelming to set up which is probably why there are so many tutirials. Serato with its digital vinyl roots seems more controller focused so if you have a turntable or CDJ background its easier because there is little to no visual reference to what you are doing on your controller on screen. One of my major issues with Serato is the almost mandatory use of iTunes. You can get by making folders into crates but if you add one track or reorganize your music you have to start at square one. I ‘grew up’ using VDJ so thats what im used to. I like that i can use folders as my organizational system and i can see whats going on on-screen.

    August 27, 2013 at 2:17 pm #43572
    BshidoHEAT
    Member

    I grew up on a X-Session Pro, and Torq I really digged the software, shame Torq 2.0 lost support it looked beast!

    December 17, 2013 at 8:55 am #1019515
    Stephen Fisher
    Participant

    Hey DJ Vintage,

    I need to upgrade my equipment and i am still using software and a computer provided by DJ Power back in 2002. Their Web site hasn’t been updated since 2008 and i did contact them maybe 2 years ago but now the phone number doesn’t work and i get no email replies. I love the simplicity of their software and because my gig is simplistic i’m wondering what else is available and what anyone may recommend for:

    easy searching for song files, dj drop sound clips, just a few choices for song fading from one to the other, i don’t really care about beat mixing, i want to upgrade to use video music files as well as mp3’s

    I noticed you recommend a MAC laptop, does that work well and have good video and audio out connections (VGA and HD?)

    Thanks

    Dj fish

     

    December 17, 2013 at 9:51 am #1019558
    Stephen Fisher
    Participant

    also does anyone use or know about deejaysystem software? thanks

    Dj fish

    December 18, 2013 at 2:57 pm #1020375
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Hey Fish,

    Thanks for reviving this old thread. Good to see that our efforts are still researched months after the fact.

    Lot’s has changed in the meantime.

    For one I have switched to Cross. They have made a few great leaps and I love their workflow. Flexible beatgridding which I so desperately wanted. A good file browsing system which I feel is better than the Traktor. They claim to have the most controllers supported natively, which makes it nice to use with my various setups.

    Also absolutely tight integration with RekordBox (Pioneer). So you can manage your stuff in Cross and sync it to your RB memory stick to use with CDJs that support it.

    <span style=”font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;”>And they have a video-plugin!</span>

    Tell me some more about your workflow. It’s hard based on what you told me so far to tell you anything remotely helpful. Do you intend to go in the direction of a controller? Do you play out live, what kind of venues? What, if anything, is your budget.

    I don’t know the deejaysystem, perhaps someone else can help you out with that.

    As far as Mac goes, I have post somewhere in the forum explaining exactly why I think a Mac is a good choice for DJ/Sound environment. You can probably find it through the search feature.

    I am not claiming it can’t be done with a good laptop and many, many DJs do just that. However if you have the choice, I’d get a used recent MacBook over a new windows laptop for this kind of work.

    Greetinx.

     

     

    December 24, 2013 at 3:00 pm #1021880
    Bossdrum
    Participant

    – Dj Vintage: LOL … actually I think PCDJ was around way before that time and Virtual DJ is also an old hand at the game. Somebody should make a Wiki on the subject :-).
    I went(pretty much)full digital in mid-late 1998 , a “tower” PC with 2 different brands of soundcard. Each card was assigned to it’s own instance of Winamp with a pitch control DSP plugins. Each card was routed to it’s own channel on my Vestax 2-channel mixer. The first dedicated mp3 dj software i used was pcdjRED in/around 1999 and i used it for most of my gigs till 2003. The company is still around, they still sell/support pcdjRED and pcdjBlue. They have a newer software, pcdjDEX and PCDJ KARAOKI. It was for it’s time a great piece of software, many fond memories.

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