What I've learnt so far…
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April 13, 2014 at 8:20 am #2023022
DJ Vintage
ModeratorThanks for the update, Paul!
Good to hear you are getting the hang of it. Even better to see you have made some very solid decisions. I promise you will never be in trouble on WHATEVER gear you’ll be faced with now you know this skill. Going from controller to CDJs will be a piece of cake.
And you won’t be accused of the Serato Stare, LOL.
I personally think that any workflow that works for YOU is the right one, so the L/R deck thing sounds good to me. From experience I know that down the road you’ll be nudging both decks either way, but that’s for a later time.
Keep it up and greetinx.
April 13, 2014 at 9:15 am #2023024Paul
ParticipantThanks! One thing I was meant to ask as I don’t know if this is a bad thing to get use to is..I can get the track in time my only listening to the one track in the headphone however, if it drifts a little I can’t always tell so I listen to both tracks in the headphone to double check. Is this a bad habit ?
April 13, 2014 at 9:46 am #2023028DJ Vintage
ModeratorAgain, there is nothing bad either way. Most DJ’s I know won’t use both sides of the headphones. But I can see how it would be helpful for a quick check. Best practice in my case is listen to a booth speaker (this is a must if the speakers are more than a few yards away from you and especially if they are facing away from you). If you don’t have a booth speaker, then you’ll have to do it all in your headphones. In that case make sure that the cue/master balance knob is set to a level so you hear the master and the cue signal about equally loud (or wherever you want it to be to sound right to you).
If you DO have a booth speaker or your PA speakers are so close you can hear them well without any delay, then most people I know will have one ear in the headphones (the side away from the booth speaker) and the other listening to the booth speaker. They will cue it up like that and will do the same thing while the actual transition is in progress.
Again, if it works with a quick listen in the headphones for you, go ahead. The drawback to that is having to fiddle with knobs (moving from pure cue signal to the right cue/master balance and back), but if you don’t mind … ๐
Greetinx.
April 13, 2014 at 9:48 am #2023030DJ Vintage
ModeratorI often go to gigs where they set up two booth speakers, I always switch the one on my “headphone side” off. When I play with my own gear I set only one booth speaker up too. Makes it a lot easier imho to seperate the two sources.
Greetinx.
April 13, 2014 at 9:51 am #2023031Paul
ParticipantI don’t use both sides, just both tracks playing in one side, the other side is off my ear, am I making sense ?
April 13, 2014 at 9:54 am #2023032Paul
ParticipantI don’t have any kind of system setup, just an IDJ Pro at home having fun for now but would live to gig at some point ๐ I’ve got the bug bug time !!
April 13, 2014 at 11:16 am #2023034DJ Vintage
ModeratorOh, ok … yes, makes sense. Again, the cue/master knob at the right position and off you go. The reason why I say use both sides of the headphone in that case, is that you are not distracted by outside sounds, including the master PA.
What are you using the iDJ Pro with? DJAY II? I have been using it lately with DJ Player. Which is just an awesome piece of DJ App. VERY full-featured. Needs a bit of a learning curve, but once you have it mastered, it makes DJAY look like kindergarten DJ-ing. DJ Player has a native mapping for the iDJ Pro, so no problems there either.
Worth checking out.
Greetinx.
April 13, 2014 at 11:26 am #2023035Paul
ParticipantYes I’m using DJAY 2 as i thought that was the only app that worked with the IDJ Pro. I shall take a look now! Thank you ๐
April 13, 2014 at 11:31 am #2023036Paul
ParticipantJust downloaded it, looks mighty confusing! I take it i will need to add some of the in app purchases to get full affect?
April 13, 2014 at 1:37 pm #2023047Paul
ParticipantSo are you using an IDJ Pro with DJ Player? I ask as I’ve downloaded and get this nasty crackling noise that i can’t get rid of? I have asked on their support forum but just thought ill see if you have the same problem?
April 13, 2014 at 2:53 pm #2023051DJ Vintage
ModeratorLuckily you can download the pdf starters guide which is mighty helpful. I am not sure what the price model is these days, I got it as a one-shot payment (not cheap, but worth it). I know they changed it afterwards. Not sure what the in-app purchases are now.
I never had any sound problems. I am assuming you have the latest firmware installed (this is done through the DJAY app). Knowing Gabor, you’ll be answered pretty soon. He’s good like that.
Greetinx and good luck.
p.s. read some reviews on the app in the meantime ๐
April 14, 2014 at 6:07 pm #2023213epic93546
Participantdjay2 w/ the idjpro is a perfectly fine platform to mix on. Rock it.
April 14, 2014 at 6:43 pm #2023218DJ Vintage
ModeratorNot saying you can’t, just pointed something out I qualify a few steps higher on the ladder feature and implementation wise ๐
It’s up to everyone to make his/her own choices.
Greetinx.
April 14, 2014 at 8:01 pm #2023225Paul
ParticipantDJ Player has a finer pitch control which I found must better for beat matching. But unfortunaly the crackling noise I’m getting has stopped me going any further. Looks good though…
April 14, 2014 at 10:25 pm #2023244Alex Moschopoulos
ParticipantI have chosen to beatmatch my ear and avoid using the sync function. My reason for this is that as Iโve found out, sync does not always work and I was spending too much time adjusting down beats and not knowing where I was in the track.
Smart man. I’ve not held back that I used sync and love it…but I’ll never fully trust it. Even now on an old school rave mix I’m working on, there are tunes that simply do not align well, so I go old school and manual it. It’s a great skill to know.
I will say though not to fall into the “sync is cheating” trap. It’s merely a tool to make your life easier, which is the goal of any technology. Go at it any way you want, but don’t feel you “must” go manual.
I now know before bringing the next track in whether or not itโs bang in time or drifting after a while. If itโs drifting a little I set it so the left deck I will alway slow and the right speed up. That way Iโm always on the outside of the jog wheel. Whether this is how you proโs do it I donโt know but it works great for me.
There is no right or wrong. You do what works best for you. Some like to ride the pitch, others use the side of the jogwheel, and others use the + and – pitch bend buttons. I think it’s great to have options.
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