Wavering on a DDJRX – help me decide!
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Charles Wah.
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November 17, 2016 at 11:47 pm #2467011
James Tilley
ParticipantSure the ddjrx looks nice and pioneer always makes good products. If your not locked in on Serato or Traktor the Rekordbox will be fine and some even like it better. Other options to check out is the ddj-sx2 or a Numark ns7 2 or 3 if u want that vinyl feel. Good luck and if your looking for a basic controller to mess with the ddj-rb looks promising
November 20, 2016 at 10:13 am #2467331DJ Vintage
ModeratorRekordBox DJ, while definitely good software, is not at the level of the other big contenders quite yet. Credit where credit is due, Pioneer does upgrade often and tackles most issues quickly. As for collection management, it is no surprise that RekordBox DJ, coming from collection management only, has a good leg up in that department. I am currently a Mixvibes Cross user and can say it has excellent features that I like, both with and without iTunes in the mix.
I don’t do any tagging in DJ software (or iTunes for that matter), but all of that gets done in other software. Just my workflow. It means tracks don’t get into my collection until they are truly ready, i.e. tagged, artwork, gained, keyed, etx. In the software I only have to worry about (smart) playlists, cue points, loops and such.
The RX is only a 2-channel controller/mixer. Sure you can switch back and forth with those tiny switches every time you want to use another input, but personally I think that is good for occasional use of the “other” input, but if it happens regularly having 4 faders beats having 2 imho.
While not giving you the Pioneer “eco-system”, the Denon MCX8000 is something to consider. I can say from personal experience that it is one awesome controller. Engine software isn’t there yet (the Denon equivalent of RekordBox), but will no doubt receive a few reworks soon. Actually guessing that we are looking at the final bits of the 1.x version and the near future will give us a new and improved version 2.x.
It’s fully 4-channel, has two separate mic inputs (should that interest you), both built-in and laptop powered FX, built like a tank, decent screens, pro-outputs, the works. And – to boot – it’s a couple of hundred cheaper than the RX. Comes with Serato, supports DVS (needs Serato upgrade) should you chose to move in that direction after all.Just my 3 cents as usual.
p.s. If you are visual guy, be sure to get your artwork in order and have it show in your DJ software in a way that works for you.
November 22, 2016 at 1:43 am #2468611James Gordon
ParticipantThanks for the input guys – think I need to go and have another play and see if I can try some other controllers for comparison. My gut feeling is that I’ll go with the original decision but it’s good to be fully informed.
If anyone has any specific comments about the Rekordbox FX let me know!
November 29, 2016 at 7:30 am #2473851Todd Oddity
ParticipantJust to clarify one point here – Vintage is speaking of the XDJ-RX (a two channel standalone controller), not the DDJ-RX (a four channel RB controller) that you are looking at. Different units – incredibly unhelpful model names from Pioneer to say the least!
I believe this is the unit you are interested in…
November 29, 2016 at 7:42 am #2473881DJ Vintage
ModeratorI stand corrected.
Frankly, unless you are 100% sure that RekordBox DJ is right for you, the DDJ-SX2 would be the better bet. It will work with RekordBox DJ (although you don’t get the software with it, you get Serato with it), but it will work with various other software as well. DDJ-RX will only work with RekordBox, so if you don’t like RB DJ, you are up the proverbial creek.
January 3, 2017 at 10:59 pm #2486071James Gordon
ParticipantSo to provide an update I went with the DDJ-RX (4 channel mixer as Todd said) with Rekordbox DJ and have had it for about a month now, so thought I would provide my feedback for anyone else considering this controller/software combo.
In short it is awesome and I’ve been blown away by pretty much all of the functions. Whilst I was familiar with most of them the pure usability and simplicity make this controller a joy to use. It’s so simple to use it has really expanded the possibilities of what I can do whilst DJing. The biggest change for me has been exploring the sampler and using it to layer extra percussion elements, loops and sounds over tracks/transitions – in fact I use it so much the sampler has become a 5th channel for me. Being able to sync all the samples (I’ll have 4 or more samples playing at once) with the tracks just frees up time for creativity.
The FX are fun to use, and I really like how they are split across beat, pad and colour FX. My original concern still holds in that it requires finesse to add certain FX in a subtle way, but with more practice this will go away. Another plus is the ability to adjust the FX setup to your liking, e.g. assign 1 bank of beat FX controls to the decks and the other to the sampler.
I’ve discovered a few quirks to the software and controller workflow along the way, but nothing that can’t be resolved by understanding the process or keyboard shortcuts. The only thing I really miss is knobs to control the gain on individual sample slots but maybe I’ll look at adding a additional simple midi controller.
Glad I went for the 4 channel version, even though I haven’t connected up my turntables yet, as you get a few more controls than the 2 channel DDJ-RR. It goes without saying that the build quality is topnotch and everything feels solid. I’ve had no issues with Rekordbox DJ stability, despite using a lot of CPU hungry functions on a 4 year old Vaio laptop. So far I’ve not come across any downsides with the controller or software – I’m looking forward to seeing what is on the Pioneer roadmap.
So in summary I’d definitely recommend it to others and for the time being am one happy DJ!
January 3, 2017 at 11:53 pm #2486081Kenneth Cross
ParticipantBought one 6 mths ago first ever controller, new to Djing and took the plunge into Rekordbox as a quick fix or easier learning curve did my first gig NY and loved it. I still have loads to learn regarding the scene and the controller but still enjoying the path.
January 7, 2017 at 10:18 pm #2486741Charles Wah
ParticipantI had a specific comment (lol!)
I owned a ddjRX from pioneer, in fact I may have been the first person to own one in Canada (am I allowed to say that?).
the big thing that attracted me to the RX was the sampler that was supposed to record your sequence and then quantize that routine so you could play it back to the audience over any other channel already playing in time and on time (watch the Ean Golden example).
but even before I could work my way to that I couldnt get pass the bug I think I found (at least on my system):
A. I could not pre cue the filter!
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B. I could not pre cue certain color/beat fxsI couldnt get past that whatsoever so I took it back, lost some money for restocking fee(because yes I had faith in Pioneer that they would live up to their “big/reputable” name and fix these issues and gave them three months to do so) and went back to the NI way of doing things with an s8.
Later on I found through buying an djm900 nxs that their are certain color fx and beat fx that you just cannot pre cue – probably the reason why it didn’t work on the ddjRX.
Finally, I left pioneer and their ecosystem of quantization via lan (rented a cdj just to see how this system worked – wow!, but way too expensive) and opted for another external mixer in the Allen and Heath Px5. sound quality blows the 900nxs outta the water – I guess what they say really is true – analog is the way to go!
so now I run Traktor, with two d2s through my PX5 and soon Ill be releasing a mix!
I dont’ know if that helped but if you need to pre-cue (like I do) and sculpt your sound precisely before letting your audience hear it, then I wouldn’t go the pioneer route. it sucks because YES their rekordbox music management system is awesome and I believe the dj software package can and will grow to be as good if not better than traktor and serato – but its not their yet. its a tough decision because music management is arguably the biggest part of djing, especailly in the digital music era where personal collections have grown one hundred fold – and in this area alone, Pioneer really have nailed that part down.
I hope this helps rather than confuses. for me though I’m still using the Itunes for music management, and then importing into traktor. I heard about and then tried the beatport pro app as well but that seems to have just inserted one more step into the already two prong thingy Im using now.
cheers
charles
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