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  • #16406
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    It depends both on the track you’re mixing out of and the one you’re mixing into. This may be a bit difficult to explain, but what’s worked for me is to just make sure that I’ve always got a “full EQ meter.” What I mean by that is to always ensure that a single track, as well as the combination of tracks when you’re mixing, has 100% of each “total EQ” (treble, mid, and bass of both tracks). Sorry if this is really basic but just in case, treble is going to be the hi-hats and cymbals, mid is vocals and melody, and bass is kicks and low frequency bass (obviously).

    Take for example that you want to do a slow, gradual, drawn-out mix (like with trance or something similar). When you’ve just got deck A playing, all your EQs are at 100 (I assume). Once you bring in deck B, all EQs are at 0 (or at least this is the way I would start it). I would gradually bring up the treble of B, say to 25%. I would simultaneously bring A’s treble down to 75%, making sure that the “total EQ” remains at 100% (75% A, 25% B). Continue to gradually increase the B treble and decrease the A until you’ve got 100% B and 0% A, then do the same with the mids followed by the bass. At the end you’ll end up with just B coming through the master, yet your “total EQ” stayed at 100% the whole time, resulting in a smooth mix.

    The percentages above aren’t accurate, don’t just set A and B both to 50% thinking it’ll sound good because it totals 100% (your ears should be always be the ultimate judge) but this principle has always worked well for me. The order of the EQs is up to you too, I just seem to normally like it best when I start with treble and end with bass.

    And finally, I will generally always bring in the bass on the 1, although a great trick I’ve learned is that instead of bringing it fully in, only bring it in to about 75% for a few bars to get everyone used to it when they think it’s already dropped, then hit them with the full 100% when you think the time’s right. I hope some of this helps.

    #16412
    KidNatural
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    Do you think I should higher one EQ while lowering the other EQ at the same time. Like having on hand on one EQ then the other on the other EQ balancing them out to 100 like you said.

    #16414
    DJ
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    Yep, as you raise one, lower the other.

    #16418
    Prototype1
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    Hi Frosh,

    How do you monitor the incoming track with all the EQs at 0?

    #1003224
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    Fair one, I initially monitor (PFL) everything at 100% to make sure beat matching, gains, etc. are correct before bringing all the EQs down in order to mix them back in. This is why it’s so important to really know all of the tracks you’re playing. When you’re familiar with each track, you can just listen and EQ through the master. You can then be confident that you know what’s going on the whole time even without the monitor playing the original, un-EQ’d track.

    #16422
    Prototype1
    Member

    Thanks for sharing. It is my personal preference to mix while monitoring the incoming track. It sort of gives me the feel on how to execute the transition.

    If it makes sense 🙂

    #16473
    Rattfink
    Member

    Ean Golden made a video for DJTT showing a bunch of mixing techniques a few years back. mix techniques 3 and 4 show him cutting out the bass on the eqs to “fit” the tracks together and he rides faders to make sure that there’s no bump in the master volume when mixing the tracks together. It’s pretty basic but is a good example of how to use the eq’s to mix tracks together. at the end of the day you’re making room for bits of tracks that you want by taking bits of tracks that you don’t want out.

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    #16525
    D-Jam
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    Usually I bring in a new tune with the bass turned all the way down, and then slowly raise the bass up to normal while bringing the bass of the current tune down. I do this so you don’t have a blend with too much bass and it helps transition tunes more cleanly. When you’re at the point of the bass of the new tune all the way to normal and the old tune all the way down, it sounds like the new tune is the foundation for all the synths and sounds left over from the old tune.

    I’ll also play with the trebles and mids when I see one tune is badly EQed or overpowering. So if the hi-hats and such sound too shrill compared to the other tunes, then I turn down the treble. If all I seem to hear is bass and shrill highs, then I turn up the mid and play with the treble and bass to make things sound better.

    One trick I used to do is to play with the EQs, slowly turning up and down each of them while lowering the others to make a filtered kind of sound. I’ll also use kill switches if I think it’ll sound good.

    #17017
    Haroon
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    @Frosh thats how I taught myself to do it when I started.
    @Prototype1 on some mixers you can select between pre/post EQ for the monitor, like on A&H’s. Though a lot of my friends do it your way and think the way I do it is weird.

    I’d like to get more info on EQ’ing really. I see a lot of the US DJ’s are really big on EQ fiddling for effect like Theo Parrish, Juan Atkins, Derrick May etc. Where as in Europe movements are kept smaller – seen Ame and they do tiny movements to EQ. Dunno who is right as I enjoy both styles.

    #17018
    Rick Dawson
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    my way of mixing trance (my main genre)

    currently playing deck with outgoing track (call it A) all eq set to zero (12pm)

    incoming track (call it B), once cued up all eqs turned off fully to the left (my allen & heath Xone:4d has total kill with the eqs)

    I bring the mid and highs in until i can just hear them. with the outgoing track.

    I’ll then increase the mids on B, whilst taking out the mids on A, but adjusting them finely up or down to keep both tracks balanced.

    at the point where more cymbals / percussion start on B, swap the highs so b is zeroed, and a is taken out. done on the one beat.

    then depending on how the basslines are, I’ll either fade between them or just swap on one beat

    You then have B in fully with the remains of A as just mids, which you fade out and get to no sound by the same time the phrase finishes. like a 32 bar section for example.

    if I don’t have enough time left to mix, or I’m trying to get more tracks in the timeslot for the set, or i’m mixing Happy Hardcore

    I’ll do the above, but start track b with the eqs set from where I would swap the highs in the above.
    then follow the above.
    so as you start B, the mid is enough to hear it but not overdoing it against A
    on B the highs are zeroed (12pm), and on pressing play you take out the highs on A
    bass is taken out on B and is full on A
    adjust the mids and either fade or swap the bass.

    I hope it makes sense.

    #17019
    Rick Dawson
    Participant

    Haroon K, post: 17101, member: 16 wrote:
    I’d like to get more info on EQ’ing really. I see a lot of the US DJ’s are really big on EQ fiddling for effect like Theo Parrish, Juan Atkins, Derrick May etc. Where as in Europe movements are kept smaller – seen Ame and they do tiny movements to EQ. Dunno who is right as I enjoy both styles.

    no method is right or wrong, but I’d keep to 2 rules if you want a smooth neat mix…

    1. never have it so both eqs are too much against each other. (most obvious example is both bass eq up at zero)

    2. change the eqs in time with the phrases of the music.

    #1003320
    KidNatural
    Member

    It is alright to have one bass eq at 12 oclock, and the b track is at say 9 oclock? and then fade the bass with the phrases of the music. If I sound good to you?

    #1003323
    DJ
    Participant

    That’s the beautiful thing. Everything regarding EQ’s is alright as long it sounds good to you (and you’re not clipping, of course). Many times while mixing I’ll have one bass at 11 o’clock and the other at 9 o’clock or something similar. Different tracks have basslines, kicks, etc. at different strengths relative to each other so you just have to use the EQs to compensate for each one and keep the mix running smoothly.

    #17066
    DJspin
    Member

    I don’t mean to promote another blog or anything but Ean Golden pretty much sums it up here, if you want to know about EQ mixing go here: http://www.djtechtools.com/2012/03/11/eq-critical-dj-techniques-theory/
    That is all I have to say.

    #17067
    DJspin
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