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  • #36121
    Terry_42
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    Most todays controller have a very good soundcard, especially when you move up the line into more expensive territory. But also some cheaper ones like the entry denon, pioneers or numark have very good sound output, however some cheaper controllers may only offer RCA (unbalanced) outputs, which is OK if you connect over less than 3m in my experience and do not have any sources of distortion near by (wireless microphones, power connectors etc.).

    You should make up your mind which DJ software to use, then check out which controller is for you.

    #36125
    niu02kevin
    Participant

    Thanks, so it is possible, but unneccessary. I use DJay 4 currently. But, leaning Serato here in the near future. Seems like a more natural transition, apart from the fact that I currently use my keyboard only. One last trip to the shop to play with their DDJ-SX. I’m not really considering it, but I can sit and mess around with the software a bit.

    #36152
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Interesting question. But your conclusion that it is possible is not quite correct.

    What comes out of the back of your controller with on-board sound (i.e. the RCA, TRS or XLR outputs) is ANALOGUE audio.

    The very nature of a (seperate) sound card is that it translates DIGITAL sound to ANALOGUE sound. Some sound cards will have inputs for analogue signals (for example if you want to record vocals through a mic or so), but it would convert that signal to digital, run it through some software in your PC/Mac and then convert it back to analogue again.

    So, while you could go the route analogue out from controller into analogue in on the soundcard, digital through the PC and then back out as analogue through the sound card, there are a few things that would mess that up:
    1) you can never improve on the output of the first DAC (Digital to Analogue Converter) by running it’s signal through a better DAC later on in the process. So the weakest link is the relevant bit here.
    2) all DA or AD processing adds to latency, which we would prefer to have none of ideally.

    I agree with Terry that the current quality of sound cards in controllers is such, that there is no real reason to opt for a seperate sound card. The external option means more cables, more hookup time, more points of failure. Lost of controllers have up to 32-bit processing and 24-bit/96KHz sound cards, but even the 16-bit/48KHz ones sound great.

    You HAVE to take into account what you will be using your sound output for. Usually it will go into club or PA systems that are primarily loud, often mono and a tad worn on occassion. They are performing in what is often not a perfect acoustic environment while there is a crowd around that creates a rather high sound treshold. So you get to hear only the bits that are louder than the audience (i.e. lots of fine detail is lost in the crowd). By no standard does this equal regular Hifi sound quality, let alone anything more audiophile.

    So, like Terry says, first pick your software and then I would make a list of the features you are looking for in a controller, just to name a few:

    • what dedicated knobs do I want/need
    • what kind of extra inputs/outputs are there
    • what kind of jogwheels do I like
    • what sort of portability/size am I looking for
    • what sort of budget am I willing to free up
    • What look am I going for (image is everything lol)

    Then compare your wishlist to what controllers are out there with good support for your software of choice that most closely match that list (you inevitably will end up compromising on some features) and make your choice.
    Good luck and greetinx,
    C.
    P.s. more sound quality improvement can be had be making sure that the first bit in the chain, i.e. the songs are in the correct format. Nothing less than 320Kbps full stereo MP3 should do (or equivalent/better other formats).

    #36159
    niu02kevin
    Participant

    Excellent answer. And Chuck, great DJ name.

    #36163
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Thanks m8 … you’re welcome 🙂

    #36181
    DJ Toxcidic
    Member

    Hey i dont know if im too late or not and you might already have the problem settled but even the low end soundcards sound fine as long as you stick with the name brand or most popular controllers. If you start to go into unknown brands then it might start to be a problem. But if you stick with native instruments, pioneer, numark, etc. you will be fine.
    also keep in mind before you settle on a controller or software make sure you know what you are getting into. Serato is more traditional DJing and is much more simple. I thought i would really like serato until i started to dig deeper. Traktor is more complicated but very powerful. Serato tends to attract mobile DJs and people that play hip hop, pop, etc. while traktor attracts people that play dance, house, dubstep, EDM, etc. and want more in there mixes. Hope i helped!

    #36225

    I use the Apogee Duet for my audio interface. It’s sound clarity is AMAZING. It’s on the pricey side, but specifically for Macs. Check it out…

    http://www.apogeedigital.com

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