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  • #31805
    x-Kisscut-x
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    I can definately see your point, but where do you draw the line? If your a DJ who hasn’t been on the scene for very long and is still trying to get your name heard, if you get offered an opportunity to play a set and start asking the owner or promoter for cash wouldn’t that come across as a bit cheeky?

    I can understand if they have asked you personally because they clearly want to hire you for your talent etc, but i would feel pretty rude if i had been given the chance to DJ in a club i’ve never been to before and immediately start rubbing my fingers together as soon as i get my foot in the door!

    I can definately see both sides of the argument though and if i ever did make it big then i probably would expect something back in return. But i think at this stage it should be about learning new skills and gaining experience’s and just having fun! I would start taking it alot more seriously if i had the chance to play with the big boys for sure!

    #31823
    aaron altar
    Participant

    x-Kisscut-x, post: 31961, member: 4408 wrote: I can understand if they have asked you personally because they clearly want to hire you for your talent etc

    This is the only reason you should be getting asked to play.

    With all due respect to Phil’s Digital DJ course, just because you can play two records together at the same time doesn’t mean you should be doing it in front of a crowd. Take the same route we used to back in the day: practice day and night, get involved in the scene, and one day someone will book you for a club night. You can do all the free house parties you want in the meantime, it’s good practice and will prepare you for the day someone pays you to play. Plus, if you play the right parties, ie afterparties and such, it will get your name out there in the scene.

    Please don’t destroy the profession by playing legit gigs for free. It ruins it for everyone and is part of what is giving digital djs a bad name (you’re playing before you’re ready).

    #31852
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Why is it cheecky? You are providing a service. You can always say “guys I know I am young and you do not know me, but I want to prove to you that I am a good DJ, so I will offer you to DJ for a fee of only XXX bucks this first night. I will cut a loss but it is a promotion. If you like it we renegotiate on the next gig.”

    Price XXX is simply the usual amount you asked in your town what DJs get cut by say 20%. It is still a bargain compared to if they would have to hire a town DJ for that set and still it is not for free and they know your price will not stay that low. Be truthful and professional about it.
    Yes, there are also some (they are businessman after all) that will talk to you, like they expect you to do it for free. Then you need to be cool about it and simply decline, even if it means not playing in said club. I have declined dozens such offers when I started out, only to headline the club a year later AND getting full pay. Those that took the offer, still DJ for free and do not even have money to buy new tracks or gear… Never forget you are in a business here and the managers and owners are businessman too, if they see something for free they will jump the wagon, but it does not mean it is good.

    #31860
    Fxn-L
    Member

    Terry_42, post: 32008, member: 1843 wrote: Price XXX is simply the usual amount you asked in your town what DJs get cut by say 20%. It is still a bargain compared to if they would have to hire a town DJ for that set and still it is not for free and they know your price will not stay that low. Be truthful and professional about it.

    Good point.

    #31882
    Mike Check
    Member

    Read any superstar DJ bio & you’ll see that nowadays producing is how you get your big break. Being a DJ playing other people’s music is similar to being in cover band …you can only go so far and gain a certain level of popularity typically at a local level.

    I think you might start to see more & more producers that learn to DJ after the fact as a necessity because they gain enough popularity from productions that a demand for live performance is created.

    #31891
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There are always exceptions but DJ:ing for free is not exactly something I would put in a bio.

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