To Upgrade or Not… TM8 vs. DDJ-SR
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June 4, 2014 at 4:53 pm #2035795
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ParticipantMC2000 is a great controller, can’t fault it really for the price range. Unsure as to what is happening with Denon since Numark bought it – you may have support issues in the future. If you’re ready to upgrade I would go for the TM8 over the SR any day. The build quality is better, you get 2 more channels and the jog wheels are second to none. Way tighter than the Pioneers in Serato DJ (any previous Terminal Mix users will vouch for this).
You also get full colour LEDs in the pads, longer pitch faders for more accuracy and clever software navigation (e.g. 2/4 decks display, browser options, sampler/FX views) and the mains power means that you won’t lose output if your computer crashes (you would need to have an external device plugged through the AUX input though).June 8, 2014 at 8:35 am #2036295Terry_42
KeymasterNeither of the brands is more “supported”. Both run Serato DJ and both have outputs to hook up to a PA and use USB … so both support the same thing.
Mains powered means more output and more cue volume on headphones, which is good in a club and you will have power bricks anyways to power the laptop etc.Buying Pioneer because of the brand name is bogus. Also the TM8 is fully metal where the SR is not. I think this comparison is a no brainer.
June 11, 2014 at 6:38 pm #2036854Isaiah Furrow
ParticipantMy Terminal Mix 8 showed up Friday… I was looking to upgrade and considered Traktor and the S4 Mk2, I considered the new Denon MC6000 Mk2, the DDJ-SR, the Reloop TM8, and a few other options. I decided to choose the Terminal Mix 8 for a few reasons, one being mains power. I upgraded from a Numark Mixtrack Pro 2, so the layout is familiar/similar. I also liked the RGB backlit pads, the reviews of Reloop jog performance(trying to learn to scratch), the 4CH mixer section, long pitch faders, and the fact that they seemed to have though out the controls of Serato DJ pretty well. I have yet to figure everything out, but it seems that with a little preparation setting up my crates, samples, cues/loops…. I should be able to keep from touching the computer much at all. This thing is loud and clear, and the headphone preamp is PLENTY LOUD even driving 2 sets of headphones(a problem with the MTP2). I pre-ordered this in Feb. shortly after they were announced, it ticked most of my boxes and I didn’t find another controller while waiting that made me decide to change my order. It really is built like a tank, it’s heavy and feels like a quality piece of kit. So far I am really glad I got the TM8, and would say that it’s likely a good choice for anyone who has it on their “short list”. The DDJT review/video, and Kareem Julien’s video on youtube are both great! http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2014/02/review-video-reloop-terminal-mix-8-serato-dj-controller/ Best of luck! Moonshadow
June 11, 2014 at 6:55 pm #2036855Nathan Kelly
ParticipantThanks for the tips, everyone.
@Terry_42 To clarify, I wasn’t saying “I should buy Pioneer because of the brand name.” What I meant was that Reloop is harder to get here in Canada. I don’t know of any brick and mortar stores that stock it (and I leave in Toronto, our biggest city). So I can’t physically try it before I buy – need to get it online. Pioneer gear, however, is everywhere. If I need it serviced or have any issues, I can go to the store I buy it from. If I have issues with Reloop, I’d have to send it off. That’s what I mean buy a brand being more “supported.” Smaller issue, but worth considering.@Santa Creek Furrows Your upgrade path would be similar to mine. My Denon MC2000 is somewhat similar to the Mixtrack Pro 2. For me, the TM8 is attractive for two main reasons: (1) The pads. 8 of them for each channel. Meaning I can actually juggle cues, get near to the end of a track, without touching the laptop. (2) VU meters. Really missing those on the MC2000. Even with full Serato, the track VU meters only cover software track gain.
Question for you though, how long did you have your MP2 before upgrading to the TM8?
June 11, 2014 at 7:03 pm #2036857Nathan Kelly
ParticipantLive in Toronto, rather. Not leave. Be nice if we could edit posts. 🙂
June 11, 2014 at 10:06 pm #2036880Terry_42
KeymasterAh Toronto I love it. Used to live there for over a year, love the city and the nice pubs back then in Queens Street (or was it Queen Ave?). Used to have a small shop in that old postal building, the only smaller house between the skyscrapers a few blocks from the lake… it was awesome. Sadly the club I had a residency closed and the shop was also going on a down slope, so had to pack again… but Toronto definitely a town on my top 5 of towns in the world.
Sorry for the off topic hehe
June 11, 2014 at 10:12 pm #2036884Nathan Kelly
ParticipantGlad to see some Toronto love. (It’s Queen Street). I just got a “residency” (monthly casual gig really, just happen to know the organizers) at a club south of the Village. The DJ booth is elevated and overlooks the whole dance floor. It’s an awesome feeling.
June 11, 2014 at 10:36 pm #2036888Isaiah Furrow
ParticipantI’ve had the MTP2 for about a year….. less than a year when I decided to upgrade and ordered the TM8… I ordered it along with my starter “kit”…. PA and lighting … all together I was able to negotiate a pretty nice deal… best of luck, they just got to the states, so shops in Canada should have them now/soon… keep us posted! Isaiah
June 12, 2014 at 7:56 am #2036934Terry_42
KeymasterSounds like a nice gig you got there. Best of Luck to you!
July 8, 2014 at 8:14 pm #2041968Marco Solo
ParticipantI had a simmilar experience recently. Also started with the Mixtrack Pro 2 but ended up going for the DDJ-SR. I have had it now for a few months and it’s a great quality controller (don’t worry, Reloop build quality is excellent as well), has enough power just running on USB, is somewhat cheaper (when I bought it there was a cashback offer on top of that) and it has a smaller footprint than the Reloop. I don’t miss having four dedicated sets of knobs and faders at all. I occasionally use a third deck and it’s easily switchable. The fourth deck is the domain of my F1, so no problems there either. As you may have guessed I use it with Traktor. I must say unless you’re into scratching it works even better with Traktor than with Serato.
Why didn’t I buy an S2/S4? Because their build quality is, how do I say this, CRAP.Some pro’s on the Reloop side: The jogs are probably better (DDJ-SR’s are unable to do spinbacks properly), The coloured pads are nicer, it has four channels instead of 2+2 and the pitch faders are longer (although the same resolution: 14 bit).
I can safely say you will be satisfied with either controller, both are excellent.
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