Tips on Mixing Hip-Hop songs?
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July 6, 2011 at 9:53 pm #3102
DJ Loso
MemberDJ EENGENIOUS, post: 3062 wrote: I find some hip-hop songs hard to mix – any tips?
What genre do you normally mix? Keep in mind, you dont have to beatmatch every song.(hope that helps)What songs are you having trouble with?
July 7, 2011 at 7:07 am #3132Arthol Gibson
ParticipantA good way is to listen for keywords, if you cant match the beat or time the fade-out/fade-in.
If youre looking to do drastic jumps, bpm-wise, then a good idea is to track down the source song and do a doubled-up mix of old vs. new.. (Candy by Cameo and All Bout U by Tupac is a good example)..Hope this isnt too vague
July 7, 2011 at 7:59 am #3136yournamehere
MemberListen for on and off-ramps. Most rap songs have a section where nobody talks. If nothing else, work your phrasing around choruses. If what you’re playing has a 4-bar chorus and what you’re bringing in has a 4-bar intro (or if the chorus is 8 bars and incoming only has 4, you can play the intro twice) you can hear what I’m talking about. A lot of times, the last chorus has an outro – your incoming song would optimally start the first verse on the first beat of the outro.
Off-ramps are everywhere. Once you figure out how a song breaks down, you can start trying new ways to get in and out of it.
Here’s an example of what I mean. Take:
Taana Gardner – Heartbeat (I use the 5:00 version because that’s the first one I heard.)
The Who – Eminence FrontI forget the speed difference, but pitch lock both and make them the same speed. At the 3:00 mark of Heartbeat, if you start the first pulse of Eminence Front with the heartbeat, they line up. You can ride Heartbeat out until the first verse of EF and for as long after that as you’re willing to babysit the beat.
July 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm #3165D-Jam
ParticipantBuy remix services…they fix up the tunes so they are better for DJs with intros and breaks.
Rap music now has to be one of the most “unfriendly to DJs” music now. No intros, breaks, etc…even when I hear guys playing it it seems like there’s no sense of flow. They’re just slamming in the next record when they see the crowd is getting bored…even if it’s in the middle of a verse.
Plus I don’t know about now…but back when it blew up bigger in the clubs (2003-2009) I noticed the crowds really didn’t care about the actual lyrics…but the “catchy hooks”. I still think if DJs remixed their tunes to be intro-catchy hook-repeat-outro they would rule the crowd.
July 7, 2011 at 3:36 pm #3166DJ eengenious
ParticipantD-Jam, post: 3156 wrote: Buy remix services…they fix up the tunes so they are better for DJs with intros and breaks.
Rap music now has to be one of the most “unfriendly to DJs” music now. No intros, breaks, etc…even when I hear guys playing it it seems like there’s no sense of flow.
Thanks for the responses everyone.
I definitely agree. The choruses are often too short and I don’t want to wait until the very end to mix into another song (people grow impatient if you let a song run too long, they want to hear the next one)
I have a large collection of “FunkyMix” remixes, these are helpful for mixing as they have intros/breaks/outros – but still, it’s not necessarily intuitive as to what song mixes well with another (even if they’re the same BPM)
July 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm #3170D-Jam
ParticipantWell, that comes down to personal taste and preference.
Most of the time now, unless it’s a heavy black crowd or a true b-boy underground crowd…most people want popular rap music mixed with mashups and R&B. A former boss called it “chick-hop” because he really prioritized making women happy and wanted female-preferred music.
So it would be Beyonce, Rihanna, P Diddy, Kanye, Britney Spears, etc. I know really most of those aren’t “hip-hop” or even “rap”, but it was more about pop music in the rap music tempo.
July 7, 2011 at 5:43 pm #3176Ivyquake
MemberD-Jam, post: 3161 wrote: “chick-hop” because he really prioritized making women happy and wanted female-preferred music.
I love that term 🙂
July 14, 2011 at 8:40 pm #3811DJ Loso
MemberD-Jam, post: 3156 wrote: Buy remix services…they fix up the tunes so they are better for DJs with intros and breaks.
Rap music now has to be one of the most “unfriendly to DJs” music now. No intros, breaks, etc…even when I hear guys playing it it seems like there’s no sense of flow. They’re just slamming in the next record when they see the crowd is getting bored…even if it’s in the middle of a verse.
Plus I don’t know about now…but back when it blew up bigger in the clubs (2003-2009) I noticed the crowds really didn’t care about the actual lyrics…but the “catchy hooks”. I still think if DJs remixed their tunes to be intro-catchy hook-repeat-outro they would rule the crowd.
that is very true! The song could have horrible lyrics, but if the hook is catchy, and the beat is right, they will dance to it.When I go out, Im the odd ball who knows all the lyrics lol and raps/sings to them while dancing to it.
July 14, 2011 at 9:04 pm #3814DJ Loso
MemberDJ EENGENIOUS, post: 3157 wrote: Thanks for the responses everyone.
I definitely agree. The choruses are often too short and I don’t want to wait until the very end to mix into another song (people grow impatient if you let a song run too long, they want to hear the next one)
I have a large collection of “FunkyMix” remixes, these are helpful for mixing as they have intros/breaks/outros – but still, it’s not necessarily intuitive as to what song mixes well with another (even if they’re the same BPM)
When I play hip-hop/rap, and it is a busy night, I would let the song go as far as hook, verse, hook, and switch it.If it is really popular song, play the whole song.
July 15, 2011 at 1:27 am #3828DJ Stone Crazy
ParticipantWhen doing hip-hop in clubs and bars, ignore hip-hop purists. The main focus is getting people to dance. Personally, I focus on the women. If Laffy Taffy gets them to dance, I’m playing it. As for mixing itself, I attempt beatmixing towards the end of the song. Also, just like DJs in other genres, I mix by notes and try to mix not mix songs 4 BPMs slower or 4 BPMs faster than the current song. Oh yea, despite the popularity of not playing the whole song, a growing number of people don’t like that. Keep that mind when you mix.
July 17, 2011 at 7:29 am #3960Phil Morse
KeymasterDJ Stone Crazy, post: 3821 wrote: When doing hip-hop in clubs and bars, ignore hip-hop purists. The main focus is getting people to dance. Personally, I focus on the women. If Laffy Taffy gets them to dance, I’m playing it. As for mixing itself, I attempt beatmixing towards the end of the song. Also, just like DJs in other genres, I mix by notes and try to mix not mix songs 4 BPMs slower or 4 BPMs faster than the current song. Oh yea, despite the popularity of not playing the whole song, a growing number of people don’t like that. Keep that mind when you mix.
I second this advice, it’s solid.
July 17, 2011 at 12:46 pm #3975jezalenko
MemberAlso check out this article on another blog about mixing. Hip-hop is mentioned later on.
July 18, 2011 at 4:55 am #4022Carlos
ParticipantGET THE GIRLS DANCING! The will bring everyone to the floor. If you are doing that hard rap (Jeezy, Rick Ross, etc). Most of the time it won’t get them to the floor. Talk ’em out….some old slide music to get them going….Just as long as you have the girls on the floor, the dudes will follow and the floor will stay packed…
However, PLEASE know your audience….they will tell you what they like….
July 18, 2011 at 9:20 pm #1001096DJ Loso
Memberbigmixxx, post: 4015 wrote: GET THE GIRLS DANCING! The will bring everyone to the floor. If you are doing that hard rap (Jeezy, Rick Ross, etc). Most of the time it won’t get them to the floor. Talk ’em out….some old slide music to get them going….Just as long as you have the girls on the floor, the dudes will follow and the floor will stay packed…
However, PLEASE know your audience….they will tell you what they like….
I usually save the hard rap songs toward peak times , which I also mix it up.I go between lady friendly songs, and hard rap.But you will be surprise that where i play at, the ladies would request gucci mane or waka flocka.
July 18, 2011 at 9:44 pm #1001097Carlos
ParticipantDJ Loso, post: 4091 wrote: I usually save the hard rap songs toward peak times , which I also mix it up.I go between lady friendly songs, and hard rap.But you will be surprise that where i play at, the ladies would request gucci mane or waka flocka.
I’m from the south moved to the west; Yes, Gucci, Jeezy, Waka, Yo Gotti (oh my goodness, some yo Gotti will get them off the wall)…
I feel you there sir. When Gucci was REALLY hot, of course ‘I think I love her…’ was the peak of the party -
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