Tips for DJing in bars and lounges
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September 13, 2012 at 7:56 am #1012113
Terry_42
KeymasterBars and lounges are in my opinion more difficult than clubs. The range how much “energy” is needed and when they turn and actively listen can vary greatly. You should also act more subtle, mix more gentle and only do a “slight show off” trick when it is really called for or when someone orders you a drink… Many things in bars come from experience, but it is much harder and there is the line with being to passive (could have used that mp3 player and gotten the same) and being to energetic (wow cannot talk to you anymore). So reading the crowd is really important.
September 13, 2012 at 9:58 am #1012118longmover
Memberstay well away from anything hard or fast it just doesnt work and will annoy the majority of people, also you need to be spot on with you mixing and transitions as there isnt a club vibe so all the patrons arent drunk or have taken drugs. You have no margin for error (not that you should be making errors in clubs) and remember the system your playing on wont be as loud but will be very subtle so mistakes will be amplified. I’ve found getting appreciation from bar/lounge crowd more pleasing than in a club, you have to work harder for it.
ps. never go over 126bpm imo.
September 13, 2012 at 10:11 am #1012120backtothefront
ParticipantI love DJing in bars, one of my favourite residencies was weekly in a bar, really, really enjoyed it. Gives you a chance to play for 4 hours+ and try out different tracks, which for me is part of the attraction, I love DJing long sets. I mainly play Soulful & Deep House which tends to sit easier on the ears in a bar, but also works very well in a club environment as well of course!
I also agree with much said above, it’s not an easy gig either, you’re not there to fill a floor necessarily but you are there to entertain and build the evening, even educate I would say. You will get a lot more requests, so be polite and if you have said track, I would suggest playing said request from time to time. It depends on the bar but I was lucky that it was known for playing house and a more clued up customer, so no real top40 requests. Also watch the volume, people still want to talk without screaming at each other, you’re there to add atmosphere, not to rinse out the jesus’ pose.
September 13, 2012 at 11:27 am #1012123DeeJay SiBoogie
ParticipantPlaying in a bar or lounge can be so varied from place to place. The club type bar and the chillout bars. Places you have to please the people and places you have to soothe the people.
The Club type Bar
The club type will have loud music and a quickly changing crowd as they move from place to place getting drunk before they head home or head for the clubs. Here you’ll need to play by the numbers to a crowd who won’t remember the last track you played or that you beautifully merged two tracks on the fly to create an awsome mashup. I try to get away from places where I become a request DJ, request are for my mobile gigs. Yes it helps to pay the bills but I’m not lucking fame or fortune.The Chillout Bar/Lounge
I personal love the chillout bars and lounges as the crowd tend to be more static regulars that aren’t just out for a good night they’ve come out to be at that particular venue because of the atmosphere, an atmophere that you the DJ help to create. For me these type of gigs are the best, it’s like being a painter; you don’t paint by request you deliver your art and people will appreciate it, hopefully. In these places you can get a good relationship going to the point where it’s like playing to family. It very much about creating an ambience where they can relax, no loud music, no pumping bass, no Zabiela mixing.The truth is the Club bars are more common with the ethos of pack em in get and get the money. Very little dancing but plenty of staggering as they down the cheap drink offers.
September 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm #1012125Broomptish
ParticipantI have very little experience but I’m playing my second ever bar gig tomorrow night with a guitar player, haven’t rehearsed or anything so a little unsure how it will go, went great with the saxophone player before but my question is regarding requests, a woman asked oh do you have some tiesto I said oh I forgot to bring it, after reading that excuse here haha but now will she expect me to play it? I have two tiesto tunes and they don’t go with the breakbeat and house music I play, tested them today and it sounded awful, what should I say to her? She’s very hot Lol
September 13, 2012 at 1:49 pm #1012129longmover
Membersay you havent got it but tell her you going to play something that she will definatley like and make sure you say its for her….
September 14, 2012 at 2:06 am #1012140Broomptish
ParticipantGood idea thanks man ill try if shes there lol
September 14, 2012 at 9:54 am #1012151Rob Francis
MemberHave as many different styles of music as you can muster so that you can change style if it is isn’t working out.
September 15, 2012 at 12:03 am #1012175Arthur Kokanov
ParticipantWhen i do my weekly gig at a bar i i start out with low lounge music for a while and get myself into a mood. Once i see ppl fill up on drinks then i slowly raise the volume on my tracks and start pushing energy with heavy dance beats. This get people to buy more drinks. Then i end my night off with soft electro / house / top40. My heavy energy time only lasts around 30 minutes or so then il start turning it back down.
September 15, 2012 at 12:31 pm #1012187Bunyip
MemberFor me, it’s about continually moving through genres and styles so that hopefully you’ll be playing something for everyone. And as you mentioned in your blog post on this, let people know you are having a good time. I DJ in a wine bar that is also a wine shop, and often people walk in to buy a bottle for their evening out. They are often surprised to see a DJ playing, and seem to assume that its a private party. I always make eye contact and smile at them and nod hello as they walk by. Make ’em feel welcome Nd hopefully they’ll be there next time and this time stay to listen.
September 16, 2012 at 1:32 am #1012205BoomBox
ParticipantSi BooGie, post: 28531, member: 3469 wrote: Playing in a bar or lounge can be so varied from place to place. The club type bar and the chillout bars. Places you have to please the people and places you have to soothe the people.
…Best post in this thread!
Bars vary so greatly in my opinion that is impossible to generalize the DJ approach. Unlike clubs, people go to bars for many different reasons.
That said, what i like about playing at bars is you get to see how people react to new tracks without the risk of having to reset your session. Just play the odd new track you like and look for the usuals – foot tapping, head/shoulders moving, fingers, etc… If everyone seem indifferent just diss it and move on to the next song – but when you see people reacting just tag it appropriately. On top of all that your mixing skills matter less in a bar. If you bodge a mix or two people are less likely to notice that.Oh… and i have pulled considerably more girls at bars comparing to clubs…. So bars ain’t that bad as far as i concerned… It could just be sheer luck tho.
September 23, 2012 at 9:31 pm #28752Phil Morse
KeymasterSome great tips here, thanks everyone who’s contributed so far.
October 11, 2012 at 10:36 am #1013391DJ Menno
ParticipantI’ve been playing mostly in bars for the two last years.
My advice would be to make friends with the customers. In clubs you cannot meet the DJ, he’s in that closed or surelevated cabin. In bars they like to talk to you, pay you a drink, and make requests. I agree with Si Boogie, it becomes a family. You can interact with the bar crew, the customers… you can play a premade mix of 20 minutes and go and have a drink and a chat (you can’t stay 5 hours mixing actively without a break anyway, let’s be realistic). You’re at home and the people are your guests : no pressure, no dancefloor filling obligation, you’re only responsible for maintaining a good vibe.
As well, I always help the crew cleaning of a table or two if there’s too many people or at the end of the evening. The owner will respect you a lot for that, you’re part of the team, not only a one time DJ.
All in all, I recommend it, it’s a very positive experience.
October 11, 2012 at 5:38 pm #1013408DirtyDan717
MemberDJ Menno, post: 29856, member: 3768 wrote:
As well, I always help the crew cleaning of a table or two if there’s too many people or at the end of the evening. The owner will respect you a lot for that, you’re part of the team, not only a one time DJ.
All in all, I recommend it, it’s a very positive experience.
THIS. I’m at my venue 3 nights a week. It’s a sports bar so there are servers running around, bouncers, etc… My biggest asset in any situation is empathy. These people are working their asses off so if there’s something I can do to help while a track is playing I will. See a few glasses left in the bathroom? Bring them to the bar. See a drunk about get tossed out but he’s being unruly? Open the doors for the bouncer. Just last week, SUPER drunk dude passed out and knocked his pint glass to the floor. I grabbed a broom. And it really is the little things that count.
Now onto what I’m actually there to do. You have to let get of your ego a little bit. Club DJ’s, by nature, don’t take kindly to requests, nor should they. Totally different animal. However for some reason that mindset seems to permeate into a lot of my bar counterparts. Dude, you have to be flexible. Learn to play social politics. Tell them you’ll see what you can do, if it’s a great request but I don’t have it, I download it from Amazon right there. Nothing wrong with paying $1 to make someone’s night. I explain to them that I have to make everyone as happy as I want to make the person requesting the song. Give me a little bit to mix it in, if I just got into a country block, don’t expect me to break into Drake just because it’s you grandmothers birthday. Respect my workflow and you’ll get what you want.
I have become much more willing to work with requests and since I come from being a radio DJ I know how to work a crowd. If you take a gig like this you absolutely cannot be a prick, you must enjoy being out there with people and be willing to let the playlist take shape as the night goes in. Rigid won’t cut it and if you can’t loosen up this particular gig probably isn’t for you.
What a lot of bar DJ’s around here don’t seem to get it is that being obligated to play across all different kinds of genres is an amazing opportunity. Eventually I want to graduate to a club or lounge where I can get back to where my heart is, House and DnB. Until then I will make the best of this particular gig and abuse Traktor till it screams. These kinds of gigs are fantastic learning avenues.
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