Tips for a very light club setup?
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November 14, 2014 at 7:58 am #2089231
DJ Vintage
ModeratorI was smiling reading this post. Coming from the age of vinyl, it’s almost unbelievable to see people complain about the setup you describe as being heavy, bulky and annoying.
One single Technics SL-1200 weighs about 12,5 kgs WITHOUT flightcase (and you were really dumb to transport them without adequate protection). A decent case weighs in at about 9,5 kgs. Total 22 kgs.
Obviously you’d need two. Plus a mixer, also in a flightcase, add another 14 kgs or so.Thats a grand total of 58 kgs! This is excluding all the additional stuff like headphones, spare stylii, cables and -of course- without vinyl which ways a ton in itself.
Your current setup weighs less than 5 kgs! Add a 1 kg headphone, 1 kg of cables and a stand (not sure what you mean, assuming a laptop stand) that folds up into a small package and weighs 1 kg or less. Finally 1 kg of small stuff like power supply for the MBP. Grand total less than 10 kg and it will indeed fit into one biggish bag.
Not sure what you mean with pricey cabs, never heard of cabs charging you extra because you have a bag with you or the bag being over a certain weight. Perhaps you mean you don’t like travelling public transport with the “big, heavy” bag and take a taxi instead which is more expensive than train/bus/tram/metro/whatever?
There are gig bags with trolley wheels and handles so you can just roll it like a suitcase though.
I don’t think DJ-ing on an iPad without an attached controller is anything like using club gear or a controller. I certainly wouldn’t feel comfortable doing it other than at an imprompty house party or something. But if it tickles your fancy then by all means go for it. Getting an external sound card that works with and is support by an iPad would most definitely provide much better AND stereo sound than the splitter cable would.
Not sure what soundcards are supported though. Perhaps others can comment on that particular bit.
November 14, 2014 at 8:18 am #2089361Terry_42
KeymasterI agree with Chuck.
Get a good bag.November 14, 2014 at 10:43 am #2089781deathy
ParticipantChuck – I get the impression he means taking a cab at all is pricey, as opposed to just biking to his gig which. Free is a very good price.
November 14, 2014 at 5:37 pm #2089951Nathan Kelly
ParticipantOh you’re totally right Chuck, much respect for you and the people that did it in the days of vinyl. I can imagine that would have been a massive pain.
That being said what I’m looking for is a VERY light setup. And even though the Denon is a small controller, packed all up together it gets pretty heavy, particularly on a bike. (I bike everywhere). And I’ve been in booths where there isn’t enough room even for that little thing.
That’s why I’m interested in getting something that weighs almost nothing – iPad + Audio 2 soundcard, route that into the club mixer and off I go. Does anyone have experience DJing with Traktor on an iPad? The touch interface does concern me a bit though – seems like it would be easy to “mis-touch” something and trainwreck.
I guess the lightest possible setup would be a USB key, but my club actually CHARGES to use the nice CDJs.
November 15, 2014 at 8:45 pm #2090241Terry_42
KeymasterYes DJing on the iPad with Traktor is fun, but it is nothing like real DJing. It still is toy status for me.
I often go with a bike to a club and I bring:
– reloop Terminal Mix 8
– Laptop (MacBook pro or Air)
– Cables
– Headphones x2Fits nicely in a Magma Controller Backpack XL and if you cannot have that on your back while biking then invest in a gym membership.
November 16, 2014 at 12:15 pm #2090351DJ Vintage
ModeratorAnd seriously, the ask you to PAY for using their gear? You need a new gig my friend!
November 16, 2014 at 7:43 pm #2090451Terry_42
KeymasterIndeed.
November 17, 2014 at 1:06 am #2090521Nathan Kelly
ParticipantTo be clear, they charge an extra $50 to use their Nexus 2000 CDJs and a DJM900. The standard setup (no charge) is a pair of CDJ-350s and a Xone:92. I just wouldn’t feel comfortable DJing out on something I haven’t at least had the chance to play with a bit.
Maybe I just need to look at a more compact bag. I’ve got a Gator G-Club messenger and it’s large with only one strap (won’t fit in a basket and too unwieldy to one-shoulder it on a bike). Thanks for the input, all!
November 17, 2014 at 6:14 am #2090531siddharth.jha.email@gmail.com
ParticipantI’ve got a Mixtrack pro 2, Sennheiser HD201’s (courtesy of my friends here) and a 14-inch laptop. All fits into my school bag and whenever I’ve had a gig, I’ve ridden there on my bicycle. No extra charge spend on mobility or portability 🙂
November 17, 2014 at 7:29 am #2090581DJ Vintage
ModeratorOn the gear. My remark stands. It’s (imho) ridiculous to limit the possibilities of the people you bring in to make your place a succes by making them pay to use the expensive and more full featured setup. With the price of the unit (and it’s monthly write-off) I’d be wanting as many people as possible using it (i.e. be in operation full time) to turn that investment into something worthwhile for my club. But that’s just me.
As for the 350s/Xone setup. It’s not very special, but it isn’t exactly garbage can material either. The Xone is a very decent mixer, only missing FX. The 350s, while basic, can be used to DJ without much of a problem. They are even RekordBox compatible and support USB to hook them up to your software (just not Serato unfortunately, otherwise you could hook those up to your laptop and be done with it).
If you can DJ on a controller (any controller), making the transition to the CDJs (even the 350s) is easy. Especially if you take the time to prep your collection for the night in RekordBox. Bring your USB-stick (2 of them!) and go.If having practiced on them is an issue, then ask to play on them an hour (you really don’t need more) before they open for example. Heck, offer them 20 bucks for it, they seem to like that.
Finally, with the bag you describe I can imagine it being a pain. But as Terry pointed out, there are some awesome DJ gig bags on the market these days, with very comfortable straps so it will sit on your back securely while biking around the place.
November 17, 2014 at 1:21 pm #2091071deathy
ParticipantHonestly, the whole concept of charging to use the nice gear sounds a bit shady to me… why would a club manager deliberately cripple themselves just to charge a few extra bucks to use the nicer gear? Their money is made from the club goers, not the DJs.
Confusing.
November 17, 2014 at 4:41 pm #2091101Nathan Kelly
ParticipantGreat tips here as always. Yeah I think getting the messenger style bag was a mistake. In retrospect a backpack would have been better. (It was all the store had and I needed something that night). Ah well.
I wonder if I could gently suggest to the club that me using the Nexus setup would benefit us both, since they wouldn’t have to pack away the CDJs so I can fit in my controller. I also DJ their busiest night of the month, so that might put me in a better position to ask to use that gear. Be nice to get some experience on the “industry standard” setup, you know?
November 17, 2014 at 4:44 pm #2091111DJ Vintage
ModeratorVery much so.
November 17, 2014 at 5:05 pm #2091131Terry_42
KeymasterAnd ask for a raise in salary just for bringing it up…
November 17, 2014 at 5:17 pm #2091141DJ Vintage
ModeratorThat’s my man!
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