Small Mixer with Dj Gear???
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November 5, 2016 at 12:34 am #2462671
Rob S
ParticipantNot sure on this one, I feel like I’d need to play with the setup to understand what was what.
Where are the gains at?
November 5, 2016 at 5:26 am #2462721Aaron Nicdao
ParticipantA small PA mixer may give you a small boost but a couple things come to mind:
1. Have you double checked all the sound settings on your software, controller, and PA to ensure it’s not being limited somewhere?
2. Those speakers from the many reviews I’ve read are probably the best combination of punch with crystal clear sound when taking into account portability. The portability comes with a cost though…and that is it’s not going to give you the thump of someone carrying larger or more subwoofers.
From what I can tell those speakers are best used for a specific purpose but if all your settings are fine then maybe you want to look at another speaker setup or adding some additional low end if it’s not “loud” enough for your event.
November 7, 2016 at 12:03 pm #2463201Colin Brown
ParticipantAdding another mixer won’t give you more headroom or volume.
Your RCF Evox’s have an input sensitivity of +4dBu. This means you can drive them to maximum output with an input signal of +4dBu.
Your DDJ-SZ has a maximum output of +24dBu, more than enough to drive the speakers to max output with bags to spare.
To find the maximum level (and so max volume from speakers) just turn the speaker level control up until you see the limit lights start to come on, then back it off until they go out again.
November 7, 2016 at 12:45 pm #2463231DJ Vintage
ModeratorOfficially the level coming out of XLR outputs is way higher than that out of RCA, although I have seen RCA outputs that have been pumped up to deliver identical output levels as XLR.
As Colin said you don’t get any extra headroom.
Sounds like it’s time to do a little gain staging.
Load a track into your software deck and hit play
Be sure it’s playing at 0dB average (watch the in-software meters)
Then see if you can get 0dB average on your controller channel meters using gain/trim button
Then fully open your channel fader and see if you set your master volume so the master volume meter shows 0dB average as well. Mark this setting if you can.
Finally set your speakers to 0dB if it has such a marker or a neutral central point. If both are lacking, just set it to full volume.This should give you a 0dB overall signal path, avoiding any kind of distortion or overload. You then turn down the master volume on your controller at the beginning of the night and turn up as needed as you move along.
If you feel you are lacking sound pressure level at these settings, you will need bigger/more speakers, not drive your EVOXs higher.
November 7, 2016 at 5:09 pm #2463351Dj G Cue
Participantcontroller master volume: 3 0 clock
Speaker volume: 2-3 o clockNovember 7, 2016 at 5:25 pm #2463361Dj G Cue
ParticipantThank you Aaron. other than the deck volume & the master volume on the software…where else can I look in?
November 8, 2016 at 7:22 am #2463441DJ Vintage
ModeratorDon’t care much for “o’clock” settings, it’s about 0dB measurements as shown by the meters.
Can you gain an incoming track to be at 0dB average (only the peaks hitting +3dB or so)?
In my software (Cross) I HAVE to set the master output level in the software correctly in order to get my master volume right for example when in internal mixer mode. If I get this wrong, my media players on line inputs sound louder at 0dB channel gain than my software decks!
If you use external mixer mode, the software will send it’s sound to the individual decks (1 and 2). All mixing cueing and such works exactly as it would with line input gear. In internal mixer mode, one signal is sent to master output directly, the other to cue. Different mechanics and thus different settings.
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