Skytec/Vexus powered speakers…anyone actually tried them?
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June 22, 2015 at 8:23 pm #2214981
DJ Malsidious
ParticipantNever even heard of this brand.. I wouldn’t trust it.
Stick with JBL, Yamaha, QSC, and Mackie.
June 22, 2015 at 11:05 pm #2215091DJ Vintage
ModeratorSkytec or any of it’s zillion OEMs is indeed mmm … sub-(sub)-par.
In PA more than with other gear, you “get what you pay for”. There just are no shortcuts. If it was possible to make a durable speaker with lots of power and great sound for a price that is lower than the wood for two speakers would cost, the whole world would be on them.
The brands DJ Malsidious mentioned are all good. There are a few more.
A big surprise have been the small 2.1 systems. 10″ or 12″ sub with two small satellites. Sounding WAY bigger than their appearance suggests. But not cheap. Goes to show you CAN make something sound good and loud in a small package, just not at a very low price 😀 . And extremely portable. Very well suited if you play a lot in small places (house parties, small bars, etx.).
HK Audio Lucas Nano (600), LD Systems Dave (even in an 8″ sub version) and the Proel LT812A all fit in the back of a regular sedan.
June 23, 2015 at 3:38 am #2215171Jay
ParticipantI bought a pair last September as my first pair of PA speakers, and they do a job. They still get loud enough to do a job and while they’re not great, they’re a cheap solution and starting out, it’s relatively low risk. Nine months on, I haven’t had any problems with them as yet.
June 23, 2015 at 8:51 am #2215361Simon Zimbler
ParticipantAll useful advice, but nice to hear from someone who admits to buying and using them. I would love to spend a grand on speakers, but I’d literally be using them 2 or 3 times a year and maybe for practice monitors. So it’s very tempting to get a pair and try them out instead of hiring. At this price it costs to hire locally a cheap pair like this will pay for themselves in 4 outings. Of course, if they sound terrible then I won’t want to use them again after the first, so I’m back to square 1!
June 23, 2015 at 4:15 pm #2215601DJ Vintage
ModeratorIt’s comparing apples with pears though.
You cannot say that using low quality gear 4 times is the same as renting high quality gear 4 times. Make no mistake, rental speakers often cost 1.000 bucks or more a piece, plus come with cables, stands, all of high quality and come with guarantee and backup – if something fails, you call the rental company and they come bring you another one. Also you can rent the exact gear fitting the venue/event. If you own, it will fit a smaller range of venues/events perfectly and be too big for some and too small for some others. No need for storage and often transport (my rental company delivers at the venue and picks up afterwards). Finally, since you should charge your customer for gear rental anyway, financially it makes no difference other than you playing with high quality professional gear.
Frankly, I think the ownership of PA gear is highly overrated, especially if you only use something 2-3 times a year. Let me ask you a question: if you needed to use a car 2-3 times a year to a business meeting where you get paid to appear, would you rent a representative car or would you go and buy a 500 dollar banger that sits in front of your house all year and drive that to the meeting? My guess is you’d rent the car, as would I.
June 23, 2015 at 5:34 pm #2215641Mat
ParticipantI have one but it’s the 12″ not 15″ as I got it cheap £60.
I think they are fine however you would notice the difference if you did a side by side comparison I expect. I have used mine for the garden during the summer and have not had any problems. Had it for over a year and its been fine. I will get another when I get round to it.
March 31, 2016 at 11:34 am #2377211Roger Brealey
ParticipantI have just purchased a Skytec SPA 1200 active speaker with VHF microphone.
I have not spent much time touching or hearing speakers. I am impressed with the build of the speaker. The pots are stiff not sloppy which I have seen complaints made about for other brands. I have touched a Behringer speaker and noted the pots on this speaker were loose.The unit I have is 12″ mid/bass. I have only tested in a large household lounge and have been impressed with sound quality. The sound level seemed low and nowhere near the stated 300 watts RMS (600watt) peak.
I investigated the poor sound level. I am playing out of a Dell laptop and use Helium music manager. It appears that most laptops have low line level output via headphone socket. I think I have solved this by using a sound enhancer, which increases the sound output from laptop by about 100%. After boosting the signal I think I could achieve 300 watt RMS.
The Skytec speaker has excellent control for volume, a line-in level control and effective base and treble controls.
I bought this speaker from DJ City in Melbourne, Australia for AUD $169.
I will be using the speaker weekly to play music at Nursing Homes, so I guess lack of loudness would not really be an issue. But from time to time I might need to turn it up and are now confident I can get pretty loud.
So for me now the Skytec is vgreat value.March 4, 2017 at 11:49 pm #2538121Alan Jasex
ParticipantDJ City has garbage Skytec speakers Garbage service No returns only store credit DJ City
* Do not touch Skytec speakers they are rubbish *
I purchased a powered Skytec CSB15 Speaker from DJ City, and lthough it was only $100, I was told that they were a special and the RRP was in fact “over $300”, this is a lie as they are always $100. I would have gone to the store to test them out, but it was too far, and they offered free delivery.
When I opened it and played it, it sounded absolutely ridiculous, and no good for anything at all except maybe a small corner table. It is without a doubt the worst speaker I have ever heard, the small pair of computer speakers I purchased for $30 sound better, louder and have more bass and their speaker diameters are very small. You can tell the quality by knocking on the speaker cabinet, which sounds like a very thin wooden box like a packing crate or a tea chest.
When I stated that I wanted to return the Skytec CSB15 Speaker to DJ City immediately after receiving it and trying it out and quickly arriving at the fact that it was not suitable for the purpose, DJ City told me that I “cannot return it, as it sounds as if I just changed my mind”. DJ City would not accept the fact that, it sounded so bad it was not suitable for even a small party. And in addition DJ City stated “what did I expect for $100?” Then proceeded to try to upsell me a more expensive model, which seemed like the usual way they operate as they had an immediate answer for everything.
Even worse the Skytec CSB15 Speakers are supposedly rated at 800W. When I asked how on earth it was rated at 800W, DJ City then replied that it was “the total power consumption of the unit” and had nothing to do with either the rated output power of the amp or the speakers.
What legitimate seller or manufacturer rates a speaker or amp like that.
I have actually compared them to a small guitar Amp I have and the ‘small’ guitar amp sounds much better and has better bottom end which is ridiculous as the Skytec speaker from DJ City has a 15 inch driver (if you can call it that).
The complete 800w amplifier which I removed including the metal mounting plate all controls and plugs weighs in at 475g, less than half a kilogram.
The box is thin chipboard and the internal bracing is just thown together the speakers are no name junk they weigh very little also. The plastic horn is ridiculously light and has a resistor and cap glued to the back for the crossover.
The whole thing is made as cheap as possible, while trying to look like a proper PA speaker. This is basically a cheap home stereo speaker with an overrated amp built in, being sold as a fake High Power PA speaker.
The audio equivalent of those cheap Chinese made tools that look like good quality ones, but break the first time that they are used.
Let me just repeat – DJ City are the worst to deal with, and Skytec speakers are hardly speakers at all. I have seen good reviews of DJ City and Skytec speakers, but I would guarantee that they are fake positive posts, probably posted by the stores themselves.
March 13, 2017 at 11:57 am #2540011Charlee Bangs
ParticipantI used to have a pair of SKytec speakers when I was at University. Used them for throwing house parties which are perfect for. They won’t do for anything larger than a house party.
March 15, 2017 at 6:38 pm #2541211Tim Brooks
ParticipantOne of the smaller 2.1 systems might be better. I’m getting a Dave8 for my home DJ setup
March 20, 2017 at 8:51 am #2541861Terry_42
KeymasterDave8 is a good choice, worked with them even a few smaller gigs. Work extremely well for their size.
March 20, 2017 at 9:07 am #2541881Alan Jasex
ParticipantSkytec are junk and DJ City sells a lot of other junk. There are a lot of fake posters on these sites that always try to boost a shops image when someone else publishes the truth about their products.
Here is some junk that a friend bought from them rated at 1600W.
Should be 1600 WHAT?
https://djcity.com.au/product/skytec-pk-csb15-15-inch-powered-speakers/
How many times does someone need to say Skytec are junk and DJ City are knowingly selling junk?
After the persons review above we opened them up and the amps are about 800g so maybe it is a typo and they are NOT rated at 800 watts each but 800 grams each, they meant to refer to the WEIGHT of the internal amplifiers!
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March 21, 2017 at 9:00 am #2542211Chuck Van Eekelen
ModeratorLet me step in here for a minute. While I am not disputing nor affirming the opinions about DJ City as a store or Skytec as a brand, there are some things to be said about this topic before we put it to bed.
As can be easily found out, the general consensus at these forums is that for PA the universal truths “if it sounds too good to be true, it most likely is” as well as “you get what you pay for” are valid.
If you want good quality PA, stick with the reputable brands. If you stick to the budget end of their offerings, you will still get something halfway decent. There are, however, no shortcuts to getting good PA sound for near to no money.
Watt ratings on no-budget speakers have always been highly exaggerated by their manufacturers. The only “formal” way to rate and compare speaker power is in RMS. Over the years music power has gained some traction, typically twice the RMS value. The better brands will generally report RMS values. I believe it was Jamo who, in the late 70s/early 80s invented PMPO (Peak Music Power Output or something similar). This was something like twice the amount of music power, bringing the values up to 4 times RMS.
This is the first thing to watch for when buying speakers. RMS is an accepted measuring technique and all reported RMS values should be measured the same way. Music power is not an official measurement, but -again- take half of the music power rating and that would be your RMS value.
However RMS rating is only half of the story. This only tells you how much amplifier power the speakers can handle. Or for an active speaker, how much output power is available.
The other half of the equation is the efficiency of the speaker. This is measured at one meter from the speaker while it is fed 1 Watt (RMS indeed) of white noise (a signal that contains all audible frequencies at identical levels). The result is reported in dB. It is important to note that increases in this value are logarithmic, meaning that a 3dB increase is equal to DOUBLE the amp power. So if you have one speaker with an SPL (Sound Pressure Level) of 92 and one that is 95 dB, you would have to double the amp power to the first one to get the same volume!
You can see how amp RMS power on it’s own means little without the efficiency of the speaker.Finally there is max. SPL. This is the maximum volume in dB that a speaker can deliver before it reaches a certain distortion level. Again, the “cheapo” brands will often use higher distortion percentages so they can report higher max. SPL levels. You want to watch this as well when comparing speakers.
If you look at some of the Skytec speakers (and other OEM, no-brand offerings) from DJ City, but also from companies like Amazon, you can clearly understand that at the price point they are offered, it can’t be quality gear. Simply take the purchasing cost into account of the cabinet wood or plastic molding, the speakers, connectors, (often) carpet covering, cross-over filter and in the event of active speakers, the actual amplifier and you know that there is no way that can work. Let alone the factor labor (putting it all together) and Research & Development (which they really don’t do much).
You get a 4 foot high, double 15″ low, mid horn, triple high end speaker for 150 bucks or so. Which is less than you pay for a small 10″ PA speaker from a reputable brand.
Ok, so why is this stuff still produced and sold? Because many a man-cave or kids bedroom is dominated by a set of speakers that are both BIG and LOUD and … CHEAP. Quality does not come into the equation.
And as such these speakers have a right to be.What is silly, is being a serious DJ and expecting that this kind of home/bedroom stuff for next to no money is suitable for your purpose. If you think that, you have missed a few of our reviews and posts.
If you are on a budget as a starting DJ that wants something to use for parties or even practice room, it is often better to get a used pair of decent brand 10″ or 12″ active PA speakers than throw away your money on the no-brand stuff, even if that comes brand new in the box.
In conclusion, bitching about companies like DJ City, Amazon and others still selling sub-par equipment does not make much sense. Sure they know what they sell and who they target. If you haven’t put in the effort to find out a bit more about what makes a speaker a good speaker and you decide to go for price as your only purchasing criterium, you shouldn’t be to surprised when things don’t appear to be what you thought they were. Consider it a lesson about proper preparation learned the hard way.
The good news is, you won’t have spent TOO much money yet.
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